this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2025
133 points (98.5% liked)
Linux
9824 readers
857 users here now
A community for everything relating to the GNU/Linux operating system (except the memes!)
Also, check out:
Original icon base courtesy of lewing@isc.tamu.edu and The GIMP
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Pacman is the best for the simple fact that it's simple. APT, DNF etc get into the weeds with complex scripts trying to update databases and other nonsense that has caused apt/dpkg to obliterate systems for me too often (over like 10 years)
but pacman is about as close as possible to "unzip in place and go home" I've never had the actual pacman itself break a system. And the only broken update I've had is the stupid grub one which I solved by switching to systemdboot. On top of that even IF you somehow obliterated an arch system it's trivial to chroot in, use a statically built pacman, then reinstall all system packages with a single command.
I unironically use arch in critical production systems as i genuinely find it to be more reliable. Slap on some filesystem snapshots as a just in case for any bugs from updates (never had to use) and I have a system that is so much easier to use and i feel more confident doing updates
Pacman works. And over all im an Arch fan. But whats with the esoteric flags? -S? What the fuck does -S mean? why not "pacman install myshityide", "pacman update", "pacman upgrade", "pacman remove myshityide"?
You know it's funny I actually find that I like the esoteric Flags more . They just stick in my head as unique and I'm never wondering whether I do update or upgrade or anything else that might sound right. It's Syu, always has been :)
Pacman is the best because its called pacman and you can make the progress bars look like pacman
CachyOS has that turned on by default
For other Arch distros you can turning it on by adding "ILoveCandy" to your pacman config
Pacman has fucked me so many times, I will likely never use Arch again. rpm-ostree has always had my back.
Sounds more likely that AUR fucked you. Which isn't pacman. I've often found people who hate "pacman" usually just hosed their system with the AUR
I'm very choosy with AUR. I know people hail it as the holy grail but the lack of vetting makes it "delicate".
This is, in the best of cases, what's being packaged hasn't been properly tested. In the worst, you really need to read the package file and understand it enough to confirm you can trust the sources or risk being surprised.
Oh I didn't know ostree was used by rpm, I thought it was made from scratch from the flatpak project just like bwrap is.