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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's adding a lot of constraint to the simple list you had in your first comment. It can do all that, just not perfectly like you start asking for in the reply.

What I find crazy is that if you're an animator, why are you paralysed when it comes to fixing mistakes? There's a spot between it can't do anything and it does everything for you, and that's where it is right now.

It's a bit how people say it can't code. "It makes mistakes and then I have to fix them". That's part of the task! It aounds like when someone types in something into to the prompt box, they feel like they lose all ability to modify it after.

And ya, it can't code a huge app all on its own in one go, but just like how it can animate a scene here and add some special effects there, it can code a function here and a helper script there, etc.

I feel like you are wrapping it up in your own expectations and ignoring the things it can do because of that.

I don't mess with the animation part all that much, but I have been using Sora and I'm also part of a discord that talks about it a lot, I see what people are doing with the open source tools and it's a lot farther along then it's made out to be in this sub.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s adding a lot of constraint to the simple list you had in your first comment.

They explained the actual task in more detail, because you clearly don't understand it. When someone says that image generators can produce animation that doesn't mean 'spitting out something that looks like shit that actual humans have to spend time cleaning up,' and you know they're not sold or advertised that way. It's a useless additional step that jams up work flows of the actual artists because it's giving you shit to fix with zero thought put into it. Human animators might consistently give you ugly shit with zero thought put into it that other people have to clean up as well, but they tend to lose their jobs.

I feel like you are wrapping it up in your own expectations and ignoring the things it can do because of that.

No, gen-AI pushers are lying about what it can do. Animation is not 'produce a thing that looks okay if you don't look at it too hard for 3 seconds,' it's the entire process. If a human being was hired with the expectation that they could animate and they were completely unable to link scenes together coherently, change perspectives, stay on model, and instead all they could do was short scenes with lens flare or some shit that other people still had to touch up, their ass would get fired. I'm not aware of any animators--as in, people paid to animate for their job, not people who play with AI to make 5 second generated videos--who actually want this in their job. It's like telling someone they can only do their animation with a really shitty photocopier instead of pencil and paper.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about end to end animation and neither was he in the first comment.

Animations are complex multi step processes. I'm mainly saying AI can help and outright do some of these steps. It's not currently perfect and I don't think anyone should be forced to use this but I do think it will become common.

Each individual step is part of that whole process, and throwing trash into that process at any point renders the end product as trash. There are no steps it can do without humans wasting their time fixing its output when they could have just had a real artist do it right the first time instead.

Revisions are a huge time sink in animation, and this is basically a problem generating machine. It’s not a fixable part of gen AI, because it doesn’t think and can’t make decisions like an artist can. It’s only going to give you a probabilistic image based on your input. That is basically the complete opposite of what animators need.

This stupid ass bubble of gen AI getting shoved where it’s unwanted and useless is long overdue to pop.