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submitted 1 year ago by woland@lemmy.world to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

Sorry if this question seems inflammatory or uninformed, it comes from a place of simple curiosity.

While getting into socialist theory, partly through breadtube content, I often stumbled upon creators/commentators/writers who absolutely crucify the US (rightfully so in many regards), but either justify wrongdoings of the CCP/Russian regime or outright support them.

To me it seems absolutely incongruous to claim socialist ideals for oneself but to champion authoritarian regimes that have ties to Socialism merely semantically or through some spurious historical traditions.

Can you enlighten me about this? Thank you.

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[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

We critically support Russian anti-imperialist action (forced upon the liberal and anti-communist national leaders by the strong communist party and anti-imperialist political bloc), and we critically support Socialism with Chinese Characteristics (as led by and carried out by the CPC). We don't "champion authoritarian regimes," whatever it is you actually mean by that.

What's incongruous to what Marxism-Leninism teaches us is any analysis of current material conditions that does not lead to the conclusion that the primary contradiction in the world today is imperialism. What's incongruous to Marxism-Leninism is opportunist idealism.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You're making a lot of sense.

Just to clarify, are you saying that the communist party of Russia wanted to intervene in Ukraine?

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'll have to look again at sources but a lot of people have been talking about that on the grad over the last year or so.

IIRC Russian communists wanted to intervene in 2014 already, as they knew the conditions in Donbas would only worsen as the fascist Ukrainian regime only got stronger. These Russian internal political tensions finally boiled over and forced Putin to make a move in February 2022 when all even nominally oppositional media was banned in Ukraine. It was then that Putin and the rest of the liberals at the top of the Russian government were finally convinced that the situation in Ukraine for whoever the government determined to be non-Ukranians could only get worse without outside help. It also looked like an all out attack against the residents of Donbas was imminent.

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