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submitted 1 year ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

On numerous occasions in post-Soviet Russia, conservative politicians and the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) have called for anti-abortion measures and the return of traditional gender roles. However, medical experts have defended accessible abortions, and no health minister has previously argued that women should prioritize childbirth over education in order to raise the birthrate.

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[-] taladar@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

The idea that having lots of kids is a good thing is definitely ideological. You might not have noticed but we have a few billion too many people on this planet, not too few.

[-] Novman@feddit.it -2 points 1 year ago

I'm not arguing if it is a good idea or not. I'm pointing the fact that high natality groups became majority in the long run and the majority dictate the policies.

[-] taladar@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

That was certainly the case some of the time but if that was still true today you would expect groups like the Amish and Catholics to dominate populations while in reality they are very much in decline in terms of importance.

[-] Novman@feddit.it -2 points 1 year ago

Amish is a group too far from society and catholics now have a very low tfr. On the other hand ultraortodox in israel and muslim in europe have a growing influence on society.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's because they are loud and obnoxious.

[-] Novman@feddit.it -1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the only one that have power and influence in the world are usa progressives from silicon valley.... A quite very local point of view from a nation that define herself like a world power

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Why are you assuming I am from USA , I am not?

[-] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago

No, but at least from western world.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A country with an healty tfr and a traditional family. 2.1 it is not the 1.2-1.6 from western europe.

Btw: indians and pakistani, with a better tfr than british now are the most powerful ethnicity in uk and ireland, pratically all chief of government of english islands are from there. ( ireland, scotland, uk, london ). So you confirm my thesis.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, also a country with a fucked up female to male ratio, because most orthodox family tend to abort female babies. Which confirms the thesis that conservatives are the most fucked people.

[-] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago

It is a chinese/indian problem, in europe and muslim world no such preference ever existed

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