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Isn't that a little bit charitable for the country that blackbagged and drugged criminal and non-criminal civilians with LSD, deliberately circulated drugs both inside and outside our own borders, taught animals with bombs strapped to them to seek out rival personnel and infrastructure, infiltrated and assassinated members of social justice movements, deliberately exported indiscriminate murder to countries that looked like they might be starting to think about not being the right kind of democratic, used guns to back corporations quashing striking workers, poisoned the earth in Vietnam with agent orange, and far, far more, all in violation of our own Democratic process, the trust of our people, or the nations we interact with?
We can't move forward if we can't get past the past. You have brought nothing to this conversation except being a troll. Nobody is saying that the USA is without fault.
Doesn’t the recent nomination of a guy like Eliott Abrams—by an ostensibly liberal administration—suggest that the U.S. has not gotten past its past?
Many of these things are still ongoing today, and many more (possibly all?) have never been apologized for or have even been denied. Why are you calling that the past?
Propose a solution to move forward.
Isn't that what why we elect people? So they can do that for us
What is "that"? The other person is mad things in the past, unrelated to the destruction of chemical weapons, are bad.
What would these politicians do? Invent time travel and change history?
How about moving forward, acknowledging the past, and trying to do things right... Like destroying chemical weapons stockpiles?
"You can't point out any problems unless you have a solution to them" is such a tired thought terminating cliché. I have plenty of ideas about solutions, but my contribution here is meaningful without me having to go to all of the trouble of explaining them all.
Your contribution is nothing more than whataboutism.
At what date do you think the United States just stopped doing all that evil bad stuff and got its act together?
The point being made is that the present contains the past and there has been no attempt to break with the past. The CIA hacked into the state-owned computers of Congressional staffers who were writing up the report on torture findings and destroyed most of their report permanently. The CIA was ordered not destroy video evidence. The woman who then destroyed the evidence against court order was unpunished and she was appointed to oversee the case against the CIA hackers, who she absolved of any wrong doing.
It's literally not the past. The US is constantly and continuously doing these things.
there is a saying I think you might consider
miss the forest for the trees
Is your statement meant to imply that one might miss the forest of US atrocities if one looks at every tree of genocide or civilian assassination or unjust imperial war as individual and unrelated incidents?
Do you want things to improve or do you want to stay right?
You can’t have both.
Yes I can, if the US loses its power to treat the rest of the world like this, things will improve and also the atrocities of its past will remain relevant.