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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

I think the main problem here is for folks forced to drive every day in the dervish of death that is rush hour.

If you can't afford to live near where you work (as is often the case in the UK), and you're already looking at a 1 hour commute both ways, current public transport isn't an option. You can either give up on sleep, or you will have to drive.

A lot of these changes are coming in the wrong order - first you improve public transport, create affordable housing near city centers, and drastically reduce the price (and let's be frank, increase the quality of) public transport, and THEN you hit car users to push them on to these options. In the current order, they just introduce further hardship to folks who already have a bad time.

[-] harrim4n@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the current approach globally - at least it seems to be the same in Germany - is to make the "experience", if you want to call it that, for car users worse to the point that it's worse than public transport in order to force people onto it. There are some minor improvements being made to public transport, but it's of course a lot faster to put up signs for a speedlimit everywhere or even blocking access to certain roads completely than to increase the capacity of a rail network. And as you said, this hits the already disadvantaged parts of the population more, since they more often than not have manual labor type job that requires going into the "office" everyday, that are living further from work, ...

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

That's not some "approach" but a symptom of conservatives fighting change tooth and nails. And it's always easier to destroy something. So while one side is trying to improve public transport and create proper bike infrastructure at the same time, the other side is sabotaging.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Plus the car centric model was helped along by sabotaging public transport, so it shouldn't be a surprise if doing the reverse is the way to get back.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Disadvantaged parts of population usually don't have cars. For example in Moscow total amout of cars is about 20% of population, in regions it's even less.

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