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submitted 1 year ago by woland@lemmy.world to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

Sorry if this question seems inflammatory or uninformed, it comes from a place of simple curiosity.

While getting into socialist theory, partly through breadtube content, I often stumbled upon creators/commentators/writers who absolutely crucify the US (rightfully so in many regards), but either justify wrongdoings of the CCP/Russian regime or outright support them.

To me it seems absolutely incongruous to claim socialist ideals for oneself but to champion authoritarian regimes that have ties to Socialism merely semantically or through some spurious historical traditions.

Can you enlighten me about this? Thank you.

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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can't disagree with that. But this is no different to the west. Raising these issues without unpacking the presence of the same features of liberal democracies means fuelling the pro-US imperialism narrative. It does the job of three-letter agencies for them. Socialists living in the west should spend their time challenging their own bourgeois and their own governments, the prime forces behind (US) imperialism. Only when they have achieved that, where their action might actually achieve something, should they turn their gaze elsewhere. The Soviet Union was making plenty progress before the US toppled it; it's a bit rich for westerners to now decry the consequences of that toppling (even if these are things that shouldn't happen).

EDIT: Now I know you're not in the west, I come across as a bit of an arse in this comment – sorry! I'll leave it up in case any western readers are thinking about criticising other countries before they criticise their own.

this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2023
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