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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

And Microsoft: famously non-political company that ~~bribes~~ lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not disagreeing that some companies can have a political impact on the world.

Those memes in particular, aren't focused on the political aspects. You have to be missing a brain in order to miss the point there.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

You can't have one without the other and you'd have to have a brain smoother than melting butter in order to miss the point there

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

There's no point arguing with you since you can't understand the basic concept of what the point of a meme is nor can you read what I previously wrote.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

There's no point arguing with you since you're detached from material reality, nor can you read what I previously wrote.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

since you can't understand the basic concept of what the point of a meme is

You think the basic concept of a meme is an increasingly stale chuckle you get while being in an ever-smaller bubble world because the world outside of that is scary and uncomfortable to you. grillman

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What? This is a community for memes. Political debate isn't memes. Simple as that.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Keep your head in the sand as deep and long as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that almost everything imaginable has some intersectional political context, including whining about things being too political.

You may not notice it when you're comfortable and used to it, but it's there.

Simple as that.

The only thing simple about it is your willful ignorance and the ever-smaller bubble world you're trying to hold together because the world outside of it is scary and political.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I get what you mean, even thought I don't entirely agree.

If you go to extremes, everything can be political. That's not the reality more often than not. Also, I don't mind politics, and I enjoy different opinions. However, I don't think memes where the point is clearly to annoy or trigger any political party or political movement belong here though.

In sum, I respect and appreciate any and all political opinions, on political centric communities. I just want to look at stupid memes and unwind, I don't want to see the the usual left/right/capitalist/socialist/communist arguments.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

If you go to extremes

Who decides what is "extreme?" You?

That's the problem. It's a vague arbitrary line that seems defined by "what you find uncomfortable that you don't want to think about."

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Extremes are based on common sense. If you don't have common sense then I'm afraid I can't help you understand what is political and what isn't.

I'm done wasting my time with this crap.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Extremes are based on common sense.

Again, what you call your common sense as an arbitrary and selfish metric that others clearly do not agree with, including here in this thread.

If you don't have common sense then I'm afraid I can't help you understand what is political and what isn't.

That's an impressive amount of textual masturbation there.

I'm done wasting my time with this crap.

Alas, you must go, the nonpolitical logical humans of Rationalia require your presence. Be on your way, oh nonpolitical arbiter of what is and isn't common sense. smuglord farquaad-point

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Extremes are based on common sense. If you don't have common sense then I'm afraid I can't help you understand what is political and what isn't.

FUCKIN LMAO and who defines what common sense is? Is there a list of criteria for something to be considered common sense that is generally accepted? I must have missed that checklist.

Guess I'm a dumbfuck.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

No you have to be missing a brain to think monopolies don't have anything to do with politics.

Stealing a line from something I saw earlier. If you don't like the memes just ignore them like you do the homeless people you walk by, non-politically.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I never said they don't have anything to do with politics you dumbfuck. Re-read my post.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Ok I re read the part where you said

  1. Not political

And interpreted that to mean you didn't think it was political.

If that wasn't the intent you should work on communicating more clearly, or not being mad when people correctly read what you posted.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Oh god. How thick can you be? I meant the MEME isn't political. Never said anything about Microsoft or other big companies.

You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political, not Microsoft.

[-] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Oh god. How thick can you be? You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political. And it clearly is, since it references political entities and distributes the ideology of whoever is OP of the meme to a bunch of unsuspecting lurkers that falsely assume it's non-political. Also the fact that you disagree about what is and what isn't political makes it political

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You guys are making it political.

Remove the hexbear instance and you'll see that most of the comments agree on what is and isn't politics, even thought their feelings towards X and Y political party differ. It's seems it's just you guys creating a shit storm of nonsense and everybody else kinda getting along despite their differences.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

There is a massive degree of consensus between Democrats and Republicans with vicious disagreement on a minority of issues

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't know, I'm not from the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But for what little I know of US politics, I believe you are correct.

[-] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

You're describing an echochamber..

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, I'm describing a meme focused community.

If there are no politics, there are no echo chambers to be had.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

That must explain why all those meme focused communities, especially the "dank" and "edgy" ones radicalized a generation of white boys to worship Andrew tate and why we've got 10 year olds saying kill all gays and fuck women to popular "meme" streamers.

Cus of how non political those places are.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you there. I hate that little old scrutum too.

But, if those memes would start to get too edgy, yes I would still want a specific community for them

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Wow what a surprise the person complaining about memes being too political also thinks that the memes that radicalized fascists should still be kept around.

You're literally the white moderate holding back progress MLK Jr described.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What drugs are you high on?

I didn't say those memes should be kept around. I said they should have their own community in the sense that I don't want them here.

Truth be told, we would have no way to ban those people from creating a community or even an entire instance if they wanted to.

Also, I'm not from the US. No fucking clue what you mean by white moderate. Also, why specifically white? Wtf

[-] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course you think that there are no politics, because you have a very limited understanding of politics

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You do you.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you get to the size of a monopoly like that, you operate on such a massive scale that your very existence as a company, and the actions required to grow and sustain it, is orders of magnitude more politcal than say, the small-scale relationship between a restaurant owner and their employees, which is also inherently politcal.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Again, I'm not saying you guys are wrong. What I'm saying is that the point of the meme is NOT political in nature.

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