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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/europe@feddit.de

The French government has announced plans to allow retailers to sell fuel at a loss - even though French law currently prohibits doing so - with hopes that the measure will bring down prices at the pump for consumers.

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[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I don't know the transport pricing structure in NL, that kind of calculation is generally only ever true if you own a car anyway and ignore that cost.

[-] max@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

The cost of owning + maintenance + extra fuel was taken into account I'm afraid

[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

In Germany, owning a cheap car runs you around 3000€/a, with a relatively low mileage. I imagine that's similar in NL. You're saying you'd definitely run above that with whatever commuter ticket is available to you?

[-] max@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Our car is a little above “a cheap car”, perhaps. But taking into account 4 days on site, you get about 20k km per year (assuming 52 weeks). With maintenance and other costs, including putting money aside for when this car is to be replaced, we reserve about €300 a month. That is including fuel for those 20k km per year. Getting a “traject vrij” (free travel on a certain route) subscription from the railways is, I kid you not, €400 a month. Even more expensive than when I looked last time. 🥲 Edit: forgot to mention you’ll need the bus as well, which is around €2 per ride. Around €70 euros per month extra. Cheaper than getting a discount subscription (€18 per month + €55 in fares) or a total subscription for the bus (€97 per month)

[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Ok. That sucks. :/

[-] AlexS@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With maintenance and other costs, including putting money aside for when this car is to be replaced, we reserve about €300 a month. That is including fuel for those 20k km per year.

Never ever is it that cheap!

20k km means €2200 for benzin alone. (5,5 liters/100 km and 2€/liter)

Insurance is €900

Road tax €500

Maintenance and tyres €1200

Savement for replacement €1500

This is €6300 yearly or €500 per month.

[-] max@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like my memories about my calculations were a little off. It’s €350 per month for 15k km. Upping it to 20k km would make it around €400, which, insanely enough, is still cheaper than public transport. 😐

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