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Giorgia Meloni: I won’t allow Italy to become Europe’s refugee camp
(www.theguardian.com)
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I know nothing about her politics. I know even less about modern Italian power structures. But I do know that you using someone's bloodline as an argument against them (or for them) makes me less inclined to hear you out.
The apparent, less-than-measured vitriol towards an entire nation (which could be a misreading, or purely affectational) doesn't help either.
Take that for what it's worth - which might not be much.
Far as I know she's politically descended from Mussolini, not biologically. FdI and Meloni are fascists
She's being confused with Alessandra Mussolini, who is Mussolini's granddaughter and a serving member of the European Parliament.
Oh, that clarifies things, thanks!
"I know nothing about this person, here's why I'm defending them anyways"
lol, uh huh
And in case the passive-aggressive - and really childish - "lol, uh huh" was meant to imply I was somehow covertly politically aligned with her; I'm both on the wrong continent and on the wrong side of the political spectrum for that.
Please consider shaking this bad-faith miscaracterization/so-you're-saying quote + snarky comment 1-2 combo. It's not very helpful to anyone - yourself in particular - thought it might feel like it.
Being disingenuous and saying you don't know someone when you clearly do doesn't warrant any proper response, people arguing in bad faith isn't a new concept
I tried to be as charitable as I could here, I really did. Clearly you don't share the same approach to life. That's alright, it typically passes after college.
I don't know what to tell you other than I spent my entire adult life in Asia, having left Europe in large part because I didn't feel welcome there due to a mixture of my skin color and my ethnicity. I stopped following political developments there ages ago, and this is the first time I heard this woman's name.
I also happen to be heavily left leaning, and I am sick of people I politically align with, who are too busy being professionally outraged to get anything done. Change hearts and minds; stop looking for "snapplause" moments. Those people already agree with you. You've done nothing, won nothing, but a dopamine shot.
...I suspect the bits of personal information above matter to you for some reason, and that makes me profoundly sad. I wish you the best, and I hope that one day your heart opens just a crack more.
I neither have nor had any intention of defending her.
My only intention was to point out the effect the approach above - and now below - has one somene with absolutely no dog in this fight.
While I am a sample of one, that's an interesting data point for someone looking to advance their political view point - less so for someone looking to score internet points.
Dude, Lemmy is a shit hole for political discourse. It's just an outrage echo chamber. The best we can do is call someone fascist, get our applause, and move on.
I really had hoped for something better on the fediverse, but I am noticing a move in that direction. At the same time, I've had some rather heartwarming interactions here. I'm still holding out hope...
I'm hoping as the user base grows the quality of the discourse will improve but I'm not holding my breath.