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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Hate speech is not the same as free speech. Free speech was for reporters to keep them from being jailed so it’s not even applicable for what this guy thinks he’s defending with that phrase.

[-] MrCharles@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

And what is hate speech? When we start telling people what is and is not allowable to say, we set a highly dangerous precedent and move the game from black and white lines into shades of gray. Another shade darker is far easier to slip into than black from white.

[-] whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That slope sounds so slippery

[-] MrCharles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm... Can't tell if you're agreeing or sarcastically and incorrectly pointing out a logical fallacy. If you agree, cool. If not:

The Slippery Slope fallacy is only a fallacy if one posits that the future events MUST happen as a result, not that they are likely to. If I take a step further down a literal slippery slope, I am more likely to fall but not guaranteed. If you start using hardcore drugs, you are likely to get addicted and lose a lot of money but again, not guaranteed.

That this would set a dangerous precedent is not a slippery slope argument in the slightest. Courts frequently have to bear in mind the legal precedent of their actions because once you do something, its easier the next time. That is fact, not conjecture. It is easier to ratchet down on a freedom that is already jeopardized. No conjecture involved there. No slippery slopes involved. If we allow some speech to be censored, it becomes easier to censor other types of speech.

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