Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)
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Hah what? So you are running from bad corporations to daddy government? Somwhere I took another turn because this journey turned me into a libertarian.
Libertarian? Im not American, so im unfamiliar -- isn't that one just the Republican party with extra pedophilia?
As an American in order to understand our libertarians you must first understand the gilded age of American capitalism. It was an era of extreme wealth disparity, zero regulations, and everything was disgusting and dangerous. Libertarians dislike everything that ended that.
Well, libertarian doesn't necessarily mean someone in line with the Libertarian Party of the US. If we want to consider the meanings of these terms by referring to how they are understood to in the US, we would be all very confused, since everything in the US seems to have a twisted meaning.
See for example, their Fascist party is called the "Republican Party"... Their Right-center oriented party is often referred to as a "left-leaning" party... and finally there's another right-wing party with slightly different positions than the fascist party, calling themselves the "Libertarian Party", because why not! 🤷
I'm not American either so idk
Why do so many people think left vs right is government vs no government? It's fucking baffling. You think leftists just love the government? Just... why?? Who told you that? Why do you believe them?
"So long as the state exists there is no freedom. When there is freedom, there will be no state."
So much love for state, here...
I'll tell you something that might shock you. I'm pretty much a communist. I also hate the state. Does that confuse you? It shouldn't!
Because all they know of history is the soviet union
Because they confuse the history of the soviet union with the propaganda they've been fed about it.
fixed that for you
Funny is that the same thinking apply to som left groups as well. (like anarchism)
Please tell me I misunderstood, and that you aren't implying anarchists love the state?
The initial answer to first comment stated that right side don’t want more laws vs left side wants more laws Then I thought, it is kinda the other way with my anarchist friends
In essence, kinda. The extreme left advocates for statelessness (among other things of course), but the extreme right is all for absolutism. You have libertarians and an-caps, but they're honestly misinformed.
I'm sorry I assumed Marxism-Leninism instead of libertarian socialism because of the predominant tankie culture here on lemmy.
Don't let the tankies steal the term "communism".
I even don't want to give up Marx.
I never knew what a tankie was until I came to Lemmy... now I see it everywhere. It's gross...
If workers run the government, then sure.
In theory it's great, but have you seen the complete fucking braindead idiots we share this world with?
In India we have a corporation named AMUL. It is collectively run by 3.6 Million farmers. It has wide variety of dairy products such as milk, yoghurt, ice cream, chocolates etc. If farmers can... Then what's wrong in believing we can.
Edit, its not 5000, it is 3.6 Million milk producers
Companies, great! Government, horrible track record...
You do realize that some of these idiots have way more power (money) than they should have any right to? Elon Musk, Bobby Kotick, ...
Elon is just an ultra autist, I don't think he's stupid if you make him do some engineering stuff.
I've actually never seen any reason to believe that he has any engineering chops.
The problem is: intelligence doesn’t help either. Sure, it lets you grasp problems pretty fast, makes you a good learner but do you have any ideas how many psychopaths are actually gifted?
As an autistic individual, I‘d say the autistic way would be pretty awesome as a government. You have to tell the truth and are not allowed to care how anyone receives it (what could go wrong, right?). I‘m obviously joking, mostly. I‘d explore it though.
I think the current way is the worst (turning more populist every day) because the majority of people is rather unintelligent and does not have a logical concept on life (from an autistic standpoint).
If there's one form of social structure that has a worse track with fewer successful examples than communism, it's libertarianism. Hope you like bears.
You know that Rothbard stole that term from anarcho-communists (libertarian socialists), right?
Edit: Thought you meant right-wing libertarianism. Was confused, since IMHO Marx (without Lenin/Mao/etc.) is actually quite compatible with left-wing libertarianism. Even if he had a personal feud with Bakunin.
I ran from bad corporations to workplace democracy where does that place me?
Full democracy? If so then rather something liberal.