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[–] Guildo@feddit.de 35 points 2 years ago (13 children)

besides this, China did a huge job on getting people out of poverty - if you like or not

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Mass producing shit at inhuman factories with deaths by the millions. I guess you're not poor if you're just dead.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Technically correct. A dead person is neither rich nor poor.

[–] Miqo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

So that's what happened to the middle class.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

The best kind of correct

[–] Guildo@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (38 children)

Look at the statistics. I am not lying. You can complain, but that are facts.

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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

If you look at the history of western countries industrializing it didn't look much better.

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Life expectancy has also gone up. You’re lying through your fucking teeth.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

What? How did china get people out of poverty?

Edit: They didnt. After a long journey we found out that china is boasting about how all chinese citizens are now above 1 dollar a day aka. EXTREME poverty(in 2011) Aparrently this is an achievement and not incredibly sad.

Also Guildo is a CCP Shill.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Great Leap Forward. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

It was a massive effort to industrialize China under Mao, and resulted in the largest famine in human history with tens of millions dead.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I guess that's one way to stop poverty

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not what Guildo guy was going for but yes, horrible thing and that did improve ehm... statistics.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh I bet it was and they’ll just ignore the great famine as being some natural thing that just happened and wasn’t due to the policies of the CCP.

That’s how everyone I’ve met that has talked about the CCP raising people from poverty have posed it.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago
[–] Guildo@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China I am also pretty sure, that the great leap forward was under Mao and not Deng Xiaoping, but who knows? I am just a CCP-Bot. Beep Boop Boop. Wikipedia is also under the control of China. Beep Boop Boop. Winnie Pooh Xi Jinping Beep Boop Boop

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

" For example, the World Bank draws a higher poverty line for upper-middle-income countries, which tries to reflect economic conditions. It sets this at $5.50 a day. China is now an upper-middle-income country, says the bank.

About a quarter of China's population is in poverty, according to this metric. For comparison, this is slightly higher than Brazil.

And there is widespread income inequality. Last year, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said China still had 600 million people whose monthly income was barely 1,000 yuan ($154). He said that was not enough to rent a room in a city.

The great leap forward is the reason so many people from extreme poverty died and reversing those changes is not liftig people out of poverty but reversing changes that put people in extreme poverty.".

Yes, by 1980 third world country standards china has a 0.7 percent poverty rate. Thats ignoring 40 years of development of the rest of the world. And also that china is not a third world country anymore.

Go move into a Tofu Dreg Highrise and tell me how good it looks from up there.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The real answer is probably opening to state controled capitalism and globalization, becoming the factory of the world for a couple of decades.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

And reversing most of the things that mao did.
He killed over 50 million people and caused a braindrain in china that no following leader has managed to fix. The fact that china got everyone over the extreme poverty line in 2020 is sad. A marketleader like china shouldnt have anyone in extreme poverty.

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