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[-] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago

I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don't work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

[-] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 year ago

Data I've seen suggests otherwise. Care to engage with me so that we can figure out where the discrepancy lies?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You're joking, right? A peasant in the 1200s would work less than a regular person today.

[-] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Do you think an average person in 13th century had a better quality of life than an average person living in the 21st century?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

In many aspects, yes, they did lead a more fulfilling life.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Imma call bullshit on that one lol

And sources for that?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

For one, the fact their work (which took significantly less time) lead to a real, objective difference and benefit in their society. There's also the fact that anyone not enslaved had partial or complete ownership of their lands. Not to be underestimated, as well, is the fact their society wasn't immediately doomed to collapse from worldwide catastrophes.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the women had great lives

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

This. When I was younger I considered myself pretty centrist, generally people would agree. My views never really changed, but the Overton window has shot so far right I now get called a commie (I guess here I'm a tankie? Still dunno wtf that's about except a slur for 'left of Biden') because I think a 40 hour work week should put a basic roof over your head, whether an efficency on your own or a roomie in a nicer spot.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

(I guess here I’m a tankie? Still dunno wtf that’s about except a slur for ‘left of Biden’)

As far as I can make out, tankies are people who support communist governments even when they go way too far. So even though leaders like Jinping are essentially dictators, because they're ostensibly communist the tankies support them.

At least that's what I've seen from a few weeks on lemmy. I'm sure some tankies will be along to correct me soon.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, so the thing I still haven't seen happen except for everyone saying it happens to attack leftist instances.

Oh, and people attacking others for worshipping someone all in when they point to any particular point of a particular person (IE "In regards to X, Lenin said Y" "Oh HeRe We gO aNoThEr LeNiN wOrShiPpInG tAnKiE")

Of course, I'm sure there's SOMEBODY out here simping for China or whatever, but if that silly small percentage paints all leftists then by their own logic all capitalists should be branded as fascists - WAY more "right" people calling for fascism around here than China worshipperss and whatnot.

[-] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not extreme left but it's socialist and isn't consistent with American ideals. You can bitch about that shit if you want but we're in the decay phase after a gluttonous society and you think the answer is communism? You do, you think everyone and everything should be "fair" but life and this country don't work like that.

Could be if we tried. The democrats have been neo-lib appeasement artists because they are a part of the ruling class. This system cannot hold. Something will change. We just have to wait and see which way it breaks. Either way, I'm already doing the work to see a world I want. I don't care about the noise. Arguments like "Life ain't fair" are a poor substitute for putting yourself out there. I used to think much the same way. But, I had to do something about how bad it is getting.

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