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How hard can it possibly be? (loot.buckodr.ink)

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[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Stupid question: What admirals are we talking about here?

Here are the admirals I remember from 90s trek

Janeway, who got the job because she was hyper competent at killing Borg.
Picard, who we can assume is generally good at his job
That dude who was a dick to Riker, who ended up being really good at his job
Ross, who was generally good at his job, even if Section 31 kinda did whatever they wanted
That admiral who showed up and told Picard he was an idiot for not using Hugh to kill the Borg
Those admirals that were all secretly alien worms or something
Tom Paris's dad, who was just kinda there
The lady running the inquisition, who clearly got the role in no small part due to her father
That other admiral who ended the inquisition trials after he saw what I shitshow the entire thing was.

In general they seemed pretty good at their job.

[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Point 3: Admiral Edward Jellico. You come to our house, you get my admiral's name right!

[-] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Admiral Patrick was also brilliant

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago

Janeway, who got the job because she ~~was hyper competent at killing~~ commited genocide against the Borg.

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I feel like you lose your right to complain about being victims of genocide after the second or third alien race you yourself genocide, especially when your entire race is essentially a bunch of enslaved thralls who almost always bounce the second they get free will back.

[-] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of interesting ethical concerns about the Borg Collevtive. It's easy to think of it as some big, alien, external force that erases minds and uses the bodies as flesh puppets. But that isn't how they're described at all. The people are all still there, that big scary intelligence is made up from merging all their minds together. Obviously, the consent issue is problematic, and we know people generally find it horrific when they are freed. But the fact is, the majority of the Hivemind apparently don't mind, the hive mind is made up from the gestalt of the individuals, and that is the only thing keeping individuals from leaving.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

All the Borg do is try to make the lives of others better. They give people a euphoric feeling while bringing them closer to perfection.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, mate. I'm all for an eternally growing, infinitely improving race of robots, but the Borg did it wrong.

[-] Damage@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

That's like saying that eradicating a virus is genocide

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Does a virus try to make the person it infects more perfect?

[-] Damage@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, but for itself, not the person.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

But by becoming part of that greater whole the person is brought closer to perfection. Plus, they're made immortal.

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