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[-] HankMardukas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

100 is unacceptably hot. Nobody can live in that for long.

86f peak temperature with 35% humidity? Tolerable. Especially when the sun goes down and the temp drops but the humidity stays lower than like 55%.

But the next day of 95f peak temp followed by 76f nadir with 70% humidity overnight? People without A/C die. The homeless die.

[-] jasory@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

What? Tropical regions regularly get that hot, are we supposed to believe that humans die off during the day and get replaced in the night?

I live in Maricopa county, and while yes people do die from the heat, it's not really a substantial amount (about 400 out of over 4 million). It's almost always the elderly or people with severe health problems.

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

The guy is way off with humidity levels. But look up wet-bulb temperature. Over 35C on the wet bulb scale which you egt with 40C and 70% humidity will kill you.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/wet-bulb

[-] jasory@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

You should have linked a physiology reference.

Do you know what temperature a hot tub is? That's with nearly full body immersion, 40 C with 70 percent humidity is easily survivable.

Of course any outside temperature above 37 has a possibility of killing you, but those are the extreme outliers. If the claims being made here were accurate, humans wouldn't exist, we would never have survived a tropical summer.

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Of course you don't die instantly. The guy above talked about temperatures like that over a longer period, i. E. A whole day.

People can survive 100C+ saunas for 15+ minutes. But 40C and 100% humidity will kill you after a couple hours.

[-] jasory@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Again, no. As long as you can replenish water and electrolytes, you're not going to die. It doesn't take a few hours to kill someone by heat. If you are actually unable to regulate your body temperature, your core temperature will increase much faster than "taking a whole day". It's the loss of water and electrolytes that inihibits your metabolism and cooling that makes you die, not the heat taking several hours to permeate through your skin. (Human metabolism generates a lot of heat, so this idea is even more absurd if you think about it).

Read a physiology textbook, or even basic evolutionary biology if a human couldn't survive 40C with humidity, humans would be extinct.

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It seems like you talk about sweating - thats why you talk about the replenish water and ectrolytes part. I hope you know how sweating works and that it only works if the humidity is not too high.

So what do you think happens if the air temperature is over your body temperature and sweating dies not cool you down?

Maybe you should read a book. I am really curious about a biology text book that will tell me that 40C and 100% humidity is totally fine for humans for survive, lol.

Please start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature?wprov=sfla1

[-] jasory@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Literally so ignorant. Sweating is not the only way to lose heat. How much heat does the body generate?

The fact that people may die from a certain temperature, does not mean they will die which is what every person here is claiming. Again read a physiology textbook, humans aren't that fragile.

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Pls tell me something new and not continue rambling on.

[-] ScottyB@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Small world views. Places have hotter temps than that and more rural communities and do fine.

Not doubting your comment, but it is just localised to wherever you sourced that.

[-] Balthazar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Temperature isn't everything. Humidity (as awful as a measurement it is) matters significantly more.

At least humidity makes sense. 0% is dry, 100% is " the air is full"

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