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PSA: We're back, here's a post-mortem!
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this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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I think it'd be beneficial to have more backup lines of communication for announcements than just Mastodon.
We have Discord and Matrix channels as well. Do you have anything to suggest?
Something like status-page is always nice. I haven't used it but it looks like https://cachethq.io/ could be a decent fit as well.
There you go, courtesy of @Penguincoder@beehaw.org
Heck yeah! Thanks for getting this up
Just something Google-friendly.
Nah.
I'll be blunt and say that unless you were already in-the-know, Beehaw pretty much ceased to exist when the server was shut down. Not the best result amidst a hacking scare.
Much preferable to the announcement of Beehaw was hacked and lost your user credentials . Security trumps convenience.
Having an entirely separate website, blog, or social media account for announcements that's accessible via a Google search wouldn't factor into how secure Beehaw is.
Right in the sidebar.
And how were users supposed to be able to see the sidebar while the server was offline?
You could have checked it before and follow their Mastodon-style account and join their matrix and/or discord groups, like most of us did.
Because everything they do server-wise is announced in those places, preemptive shutdowns included.
Alternative ways to reach the admin team and to be kept aware of anything happening with the server exist. If you didn't take the time (seconds) to join at least one of them, that's not the server's owners fault.
Considering the responses to the thread, I don't think that's true.
A lot of people, myself included, are still getting used to Lemmy. The status quo has been if stuff was happening to Reddit there was an easily accessible server status page you could search up. I tried to do the same this time around and Google came up with diddly-squat. I don't think googling Beehaw to figure out what's going on is that illogical of a response.
Given that you aren't in any of the groups, nor following their mastodon account. I don't think what you think based on the responses on a sole thread has any merit
Every time you open Beehaw (or any Lemmy instance for the matter) on the right side you'll find the description of the server below the "trending communities" box. There the admins put important links, including the three alternative ways to reach them (Mastodon, Matrix and Discord). You didn't have to google anything, it was just taking a look the main page of the server, see the section titled "Beehaw" and read it (Something that could have been done any time the server was up)
I'm gonna say this only once, but that's an incredibly rude thing to say. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in my previous reply but it's obvious now that you're just treating me like an idiot.
I think what I've had to say has merit. Given the upvotes there are obviously some others following the conversation that share my view. Even if there wasn't though, I'd still think it's important that I spoke up.
Yeah, because you haven't been rude from the beginning (you were)
People (including me) explained to you how you could have reached the admins and stay in touch so this kind of thing wouldn't take you by surprise. When you had been explained several times this things and you keep insisting you don't have any option because "you couldn't google it", one has to begin to think that you're doing this in bad faith.
I'm not going to apologise for stating that there should have been a page I could have reached via a Google search.
I said you were rude because you started talking down to and attacking me directly as a person. That's not ok.
You acted as if there weren't ways of reaching, only because it wasn't the one you wanted to have.
I suggest you to stop relying on google, because in general it doesn't give good result for Lemmy (less for Beehaw in specific), and start to follow/join at least one of the alternative groups/accounts
This has devolved into a back and forth argument, lets kill the conversation here please. I think you've both made your point.
Can you be more precise? What exactly do you recommend? I don't know what would be more "Google-friendly"
Maybe the front page of the domain could be news and info with the actual forums down a level? Not sure if that works with the software.
That's not supported by Lemmy unfortunately.. Most we could have is a status.beehaw.org, really.
A status website would honestly be excellent.
There you go, courtesy of @Penguincoder@beehaw.org
Thank you both.