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About 59% of Americans say TikTok a threat to the national security of the United States, according to a new survey of U.S. adults.

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[-] kobra@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean, I downloaded my reddit data and uh... wow. I was surprised to see how much you could learn about someone when it's all bundled up like that 👀

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is why I find the whole banning TikTok concept absurd.

It’s picking one easy scapegoat company to rally around, completely ignores the thousands upon thousands of other applications that collect data on us.

It’s not security, it’s security theater. It’s lazy and designed to distract us. It’s to keep us from not asking questions about any company’s practices that might hurt someone politically or financially.

We don’t need to ban TikTok. We need to ban Tik Tok and thousands of others like it. We need to have real conversations and put forth real solutions with regards to privacy, globally. It won’t happen though. Because it’s going to cost somebody money.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

I've come to the conclusion that it is algorithms that have become evil. There was a thread where someone was asking for help stoppinh YouTube from radicalizing their mother due to the videos it would suggest to her.

I use stuff like newpipe and freetube to try and get away from these personalized attempts at content, since there is still good content on YouTube. It's just that so many sites try and keep you there as long as possible and then start feeding you content that can warp people. But, algorithms don't understand the impact of it, since it's either a 0 or 1 of user stays or user leaves.

[-] stefenauris@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

algorithms can't "become evil" any more than your toaster can. It's being directed and programmed by people who know exactly what they're intending to achieve.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But, algorithms don’t understand the impact of it, since it’s either a 0 or 1 of user stays or user leaves.

It's to say algorithms despite no intent to be evil have led to negative impact due to no care for the context of the recommendation. So someone can go in searching up health information then go down a rabbit hole of being recommended pseudo health advice then flat earth and so on. Not because the algorithm wants to turn people a certain way, but because it's just recommending videos that users that liked similar videos might find of interest. It's just broad categories.

Wasn't implying algorithms are sentient. At least not yet until AI integration happens.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you can be radicalized by videos from YouTube, it isn't the algorithm, it's you

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a distraction. It's a justification. The bill behind it in Congress is so broadly worded that the government can effectively shut down any Internet business with little to no warning.

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a company, it is the CCP. There's is a massive difference, both in terms of what the organizations can access and the warrant requirements at the governmental level. I'm getting really tired of having to explain the difference in privacy rights concerning governments and private institutions. It's just like freedom of speech or religion. It has everything to do with private vs public institutions.

[-] Sir_Kevin@discuss.online 10 points 1 year ago

You don't think Meta, Google etc are passing data to the American government?

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's not about the CCP. It's because kids watch TikTok and then don't like conservatives

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[-] c2h6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Aggregated data is always scary.

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[-] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How did you do this? Log in through the website? I will have to do password recovery as I haven't used the web interface in ages.

Would be very curious what that data set looks like.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, has to be through a web browser. Here's a link: https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request

FWIW, I never got notified that the download was ready, so make sure you check back for reddit mail every few days if you request yours. It took about a month for mine.

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