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[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Republic of China ≠ People's republic of China.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People's Republic of China.

However, both are China as you can see from the names they've chosen for themselves.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

One is one of the most democratic countries in the world and PRC is one of the most undemocratic countries of the world.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

"one of the most democratic countries in the world" might be a bit of a stretch here

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Democracy is when you spend several decades murdering and repressing all leftist political opposition. The more leftists to murder and suppress, the more democratic it is.

  • State Department Handbook, probably
[-] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Democracy is when the people can vote for their politicians instead of countries like the PRC where they are forced.

[-] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Democracy is when the people can vote for ~~their politicians instead of countries like the PRC where they are forced.~~ a selection of candidates handpicked by the US government.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Do you have any proof of that happening or did you just make that up as usual?

[-] RustyVenture@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you have any proof that PRC citizens are forced to vote lol what the fuck even is this shit man.

spoilerprojection

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

If you were forced to vote for people would you be satisfied or dissatisfied with your government?

Then why does China have a 95.5% approval rating for their government that spans 15 years?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How are the approval ratings collected?

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago
[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I wonder how it will look in maybe 50 years or so.

It's impressive how far they have come in such a short time, but I wonder for how long the population will be content by that.

It's a shame about the rising corruption and inequality, hopefully they will try and improve on that. The very high degrees of censorship and propaganda is also not something I am a huge fan of.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

No one gives a shit what you're a fan of. Do you have any idea how much more developed the Western propaganda machine is, and for how much longer it's been operating? Do you realize that Forbes Magazine, created from the Forbes financier fortune, was built on the genocidal railroad projects that Forbes invested his family fortune in? Do you know where that fortune came from? Opium sales in China. Forbes sold drugs in China, and when China tried to ban opium, the British merchants, who owned the newspapers, wrote articles demanding war because China violated British sovereignty with this act of defense. And from that propaganda, Britain took Hong Kong, Shanghai, and multiple other port cities.

The West is the dominant producer of propaganda in the world.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Australia also forces their people to vote, are we also "one of the most undemocratic countries in the world"

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only the PRC is recognized as a country under international law. The RoC government squatting in Taiwan Province is legally no different to the ISIS occupation of parts of Iraq.

The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms. The residents of Taiwan Province get to vote between stooges of American imperialism and stooges of Japanese imperialism.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The rest of the world is seemingly too scared to upset the PRC so many won't recognize Taiwan. Many countries maintain unofficial relationships.

It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms.

How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it? Personally I don't feel dominated by idiots.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

Renowned Tankies, the states parties to the Montevideo Convention. Hardcore Stalinists, the lot of them!

How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it?

"It's useless discussing with a Tankie!", proceeds to discuss with a Tankie. Very good rhetoric, 10/10.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So you can't define it. What a shocker.

Sometimes it's just funny to discuss things with morons. It makes you feel like a genius in comparison.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I thought it was pointless to discuss with me? Which one is it? Retract one of your two contradictory statements and I'll happily define whatever you want.

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