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[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This makes it seem as though you haven’t read the literature and arguments of either side.

Correct, I have not studied this event.

If that’s the case you shouldn’t be coming to any conclusions at all

You'll notice I didn't come to a conclusion.

dismiss one side outright for being unorthodox.

Your position is in fact unorthodox in my culture (U.S.) -- that's what I'm saying. If you have a non-standard position, if you actually want to convince people you need to make the information accessible and give people a reason why they should believe it over their normally acceptable sources. Making fun of them is probably counter-productive (even if it is fun).

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct, I have not studied this event.

To paraphrase comrade Mao; no investigation, no right to speak

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be clear, I'm not speaking of this event, I never made any claims of knowledge about this event.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

you're just loudly denouncing everyone who has investigated the event in question as wrong because they go against your (admittedly) ignorant view of reality

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Could you do me a favor and kindly add this to your reading list?

[–] TheKanzler@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're proudly proclaiming that you know little about the subject? Yet you still felt like joining in, because...?

Not to mention the fact that you're essentially asking that people chew up this complex topic and regurgitate a dumbed down version... because you're a yank and being uneducated is part of your "culture"?

You can read, and you have a mind, it's up to you to put those two things together to inform yourself and form opinions.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

because you’re a yank and being uneducated is part of your “culture”?

Why did you paraphrase culture, it's true 😬

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Anti-intellectualism and proud ignorance is one of the cornerstones of American culture.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, I'm assuming y'all want to get people on your side right? I was just giving an example of what people outside of your bubble see when they see posts like this. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah okay you're a pinniped, that makes sense

[–] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To clarify for some of us that don't understand, are you saying the poster is sealioning or engaging in bad faith? I haven't ever seen this word and I'm not sure if there's some specific reference I am not getting.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Thats what I'm saying yeah, just trying not to let my undergrad zoology go to waste

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Rare to see an anarchist one. Though I'm guessing this one is "anarchist" because they have a Rage Against the Machine tattoo and went to a BLM protest once (But left early because some of the other protesters made them feel uncomfortable.)

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

"In 2023 saying Tiananmen Square massacre never happened is an extraordinary claim" is a conclusion. If you publicly claim that something happened, you should be prepared to provide some kind of evidence, even if it's flimsy. If you're actually willing to learn, read section 3 of this article

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you actually want to convince people you need to make the information accessible and give people a reason why they should believe it over their normally acceptable sources. Making fun of them is probably counter-productive (even if it is fun).

Says an "anarchist"

On a post

About a book

That's is literally the source of the information in which you say we should be proving.

You not only have no right to complain about being made fun of and harassed but deserve it. lol

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you expect everyone to read your book? How credible is this author? What about this book makes a true understanding of the events accessible rather than just being another person voicing their opinion of evidence the choose to accept?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

bro, just go read the book, or at least parts of it and skim for quotes to smack us down with, if its really that flimsy fucking get us for it!

"I could beat you up if I wanted to but I don't so I won't waaaaaaaa"

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

this is pure JAQing off. you'd have answers to your questions if you spent more time investigating and less time regurgitating state department propaganda

expecting everyone to do the work for you because you're too lazy is LIB shit

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We always do the work for them anyway and it's still not enough to permeate the thick lib brain barrier.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

y'all are doing god's work out there comrade. even if no known substance can pierce their ultradense skulls you might still catch someone who can be saved, and that's worthwhile

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago