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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Dude who ushered in neoliberalism in the US: "wow, you guys sure have a shitty system"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

better late than never

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And how long did neoliberalism last? From the early 1980s to 2008 in its entirety? A quarter century or 25 odd years only? With the peak of "end of history" neoliberalism not even lasting a single decade, from December 1991 to September 2001.

Was all the death and destruction that enabled such a system to exist even worth it? Even from the cynical point of view of capital, this seems like an abject failure.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

We are still in neoliberalism, though it is waning, aren't we? If it ended, I think it was probably only circa the invasion of Ukraine, which could be taken as a marker for Russia asserting itself as a world power again and violating unipolarity.

In any case, of course the answer to your question is that it was never worth it to us, but always worth it to the rich.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

We are at the stage (and have been in it since 2008) in which the old school imperial powers are trying to restore the order of neoliberalism, but are increasingly failing to do so. The invasion of Ukraine has just made that even more apparent than it was before. The bank bailouts of 2008 didn't do much to restore order, sanctions against Russia and China are proving increasingly ineffective, and austerity politics are not steadying the ship as they did in the past. It is impossible to go back now.

This video explains it better than I can

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

its actually a pretty chad move tbh, hard to do much better than being margret thatchers soul from hell admitting that neolibralism is fucked and shit and bad

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If he took responsibility rather than just being a condescending prick, you'd have a point.

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