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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 year ago

I expect there's going to be a massive political upheaval in Europe, and possibly in US as well. Losing the war will be the backdrop for the economic crash that western economies are now entering. People were sold on a quick war that was supposed to secure western dominance over the world. There wasn't supposed to be any significant economic blowback in the west, but now people are increasingly connecting the war with their declining standard of living. This is now translating into a political backlash against the people who championed the war.

The west will see itself deeply humiliated, they will have to come to terms with the fact that majority of the world does not stand with the west and actively resents western system. This is going to be a hard pill to swallow for people who've been taught all their lives that they're cream of the crop of humanity.

The big question is where the west is headed once the current system implodes. Unfortunately, all the indicators are that western countries are increasingly flirting with fascism and the right is growing rapidly. Unless the left becomes a lot better at organizing and recruiting, we'll likely see full blown fascism taking hold shortly.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

yeah, they're not gonna come to terms with the rest of the world having real people. they're gonna go full fascist and blame the usual suspects for this loss, and try to take as many people with them in their suicidal death drive as they can.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago

I definitely expect the west to embrace fascism because that's the natural evolution of the capitalist system in a crisis. The problem the west has right now is that it allowed itself to be deindustrialized, and it's heavily dependent on the rest of the world for a lot of essentials. This problem doesn't really have an easy solution as you can't just flip a switch and create a domestic industrial economy out of the whole cloth. And as western influence continues to shrink the west will loose access to cheap commodities they've been extracting from the rest of the world. We're seeing a perfect example of this happening with Niger asserting its sovereignty and kicking France out. All of a sudden France lost access to effectively free uranium that it was robbing Niger of. Having to deal with other countries on equal terms means higher input prices for western industries, and that will only heighten the economic crisis.

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

This problem doesn’t really have an easy solution as you can’t just flip a switch and create a domestic industrial economy out of the whole cloth.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Haha I should've qualified that with under capitalism :)

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Only possible with communist magic 🪄

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