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How do y'all cope with this
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I struggle every day with the thought that the corporate noose tightening around all of our necks will not be solved unless we as a society begin to provide some real ... 'mortal incentive' to the oligarchs of the world. No way I could ever do it myself, but I understand the need for it now more than ever.
Normally I'm a solutions guy. I shouldn't be coming up with this as a solution for the issues of the world right now, but it's gotten so egregious that the systems we've put in place FOR THE PEOPLE are not working for the people any longer.
Threat of force is a solution.
It's basically what the police exist to do - behave the way we want, or we'll send someone with a gun to take your money, property, freedom, or life.
All authority is derived from the monopolization of violence.
Intellectual authority? Moral authority? I'm not sure it's quite that clear-cut.
Those are subjective, it is indeed that clear cut. Authority is derived by power over others, now try to exert your authority over someone without violence.
Ohhh - "I'm right if you ignore counter-factual examples and other commonly used definitions in favour of my hyper-specific definition."
Sure - if we dismiss examples where authority isn't derived from violence, you're correct. Congratulations.
What factual example are you referring to aside from the ones I directly referenced in my argument.
So explain it. You're the intellectual authority on the matter, now exert this authority without violence. Go on, I'll wait.
You've deferred to me as the authority on this matter. I'm correct without the need to use force.
Examples such as being an intellectual or moral authority don't rely on force. I'll defer to the intellectual authority that is the Oxford English Dictionary on this one, and point out you're definitionally wrong.
In either instance, these authorities aren't maintained by force, only the fact that people view them as the authority. Denying said authority isn't going to see the dictionary police come and drag you away - people will just think you're kinda dumb.
I say you're wrong and assert I am the intellectual authority.
It's king of the hill, time to shove me off homie.
You're own source, order me to do something and watch me ignore your presumed authority.
You already crowned me king of the hill when you declared me the intellectual authority.
If you want to walk that back because you don't like it, feel free, but you'll do nothing more than make yourself look silly and inconsistent - not correct.
I'm not one for monarchs, but it's good to be the king.
Sure did, now use your authority to hold that position.
It's clearly an example you dolt.
King stupid is still king I suppose.
No need for me to reestablish what you've already conceded.
Are you sure you're OK after all that violence I inflicted on you?
So you're not the intellectual authority because I say you're wrong and I am in fact the authority. Prove me wrong and moreover order me to do legit any fucking thing.
Walking back your own statements because you don't like the outcome does nothing to hurt my intellectual authority, while it torpedoes your own.
My advice - if you want to be seen as the intellectual authority, make a better case for it. Violence won't work, and your current line of argumentation is proving my point.
It's not like they're giving us much choice