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I wish Linux was more mature. Even as a systems and network administrator with 10+ years of experience working with both Linux and Windows in an enterprise environment, my private desktop Linux installs still occasionally bork themselves for no good reason and require a reinstall. Linux just doesn't like it when you do stuff with it.
The only thing borking my system is nvidia not keeping up with opensuse tumbleweed kernels.
But i haven't encountered such issuess on distros with fixed releases, such as debian or fedora. In my experience unless you modifiy system stuff it's very reliable.
Ubuntu and other Ubuntu desktop variants tend to break very often for me. But this has nothing to do with Linux.
I use Arch Linux at home and never reainstalled it because its solid af. Unlike Windows or Ubuntu
I second this. People usually recommend Ubuntu for beginners which I can somewhat understand because it's super easy to get started. But the downside is that you'll most likely stay a beginner and don't understand the absolute basics of a Linux based OS because, well, most of the time you don't have to. Then you make a beginner's mistake once and there you go.
Slowly the trend of recommending Ubuntu to beginners is declining
I don't get why people even recommend Ubuntu anymore. There's other beginner friendly distros like Mint that don't have a company behind them that develops proprietary software no one wants and then tries to get everyone to use it.
while I agree with you, calling people who recommend other distro elitists, horrible teachers, and idiots is pretty combative and rude.
A colleague of mine has arch and recently it just wouldnt boot linux. Reinstall required.
Why wouldn't he boot a live OS and look why it wouldn't boot
My uptime is 60 days, and that's with running updates. In my experience, the people with the worst Linux experience are those who are skilled with Windows, because they keep trying to do things the Windows way.
I wish y'all would hold Windows to the same quality standards as your five minutes Ubuntu clicking.
I must be lucky. I've been using Linux (Debian then Ubuntu then PC Linux OS then back to Kubuntu) since approx 2002. I don't remember ever having to reinstall my OS because an application borked on install or otherwise. Reboot, maybe, but it was normally fixable. I have been annoyed at my favorite apps disappearing in a new release and having to change my workflow, but that's about it.
Even all the pain I had to go through to get X11 working correctly in the early days didn't require reinstalls.
I've definitely had such issues with Windows. Never with Linux.
This used to be me but mostly because I would experiment a little too much, never without reason.
Except a few Arch updates over a decade ago when they changed the default from hal to udev, or a Gentoo setup with WAY too specific USE flags, I don't think I can remember any failure like this ever. I've honestly had more issues with Windows nuking itself on a major update.
Mostly using Debian and Fedora these days, and it's been smooth sailing for quite some time.
Check out the btrfs filesystem with snapshots
What distro are you using? The only times I've had this issue was with Manjaro but since I've switched to EndeavourOS this never happened to me again.
how to tell you are using Arch without saying it. Don't use a rolling release on your own if you aren't willing to pay the maintenance cost. edit: no, I'm not an ubuntu user.
Actually, at work I use Kubuntu and at home I use Arch Linux.
Guess which install borks out of nowhere automatically because od auto-updates? Exactly. Kubuntu.
Arch is pretty solid and stable. Never broke, never reinstalled unlike most Ubuntu distros
Edit: oh, you aren't even OP. But I see I triggered you. And you have repeated the same you are saying in the parallel comment? Are you here reading all comments to this specific comment?
I use Ubuntu 22.04 on my laptop and EndeavourOS (which is based on Arch) on my desktop. I spend WAY more time troubleshooting random shit on my Ubuntu machine compared to EndeavourOS.
I use EndeavourOS, which is Arch based, it has a great and very easy installer and it just worked after installing it and has worked ever since. Arch isn't that hard anymore.
What's the "maintenance cost"? Arch had a pretty big setup cost, but mostly because I wanted to configure it to my liking, but I haven't had to do any maintenance. My Arch server has had low setup time as well.