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If you're feeling left out it's probably because you defend billionaires who would mince you into fertilizer
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this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
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Imagine participating in society lmaoo
You realize wet wipes are made by capitalists…
Athletes foot treatment, toe nail clippers and beds… All things that capitalist societies have in abundance.
Baby powder also made by capitalists. Freedom to travel… first one you mentioned that isn’t directly capitalist but surprisingly most communist countries don’t allow the free movement of their citizens. There are usually walls built to keep them from migrating to capitalist societies.
You are of course free to emigrate to Cuba or Venezuela at any time if you prefer communism. I mean there are tons of boats full of Americans refugees setting sail from Miami to Cuba every day…
This whole thread was hillarious.
Unless you are poor of course. Then you should just die I guess. Truly something worth protecting.
Eat the rich my people!
Oh okay they're trolling, I get it
Person is already dead inside. They "have a family" but are acting like a teenager - speaks for itself...
"they're acting like a teenager" and "speaks for itself" in the same post. 😬
Thanks for calling me on the shoddy rhetoric. The person I was replying to claims to have a family while themselves providing a typical teenage retort, thereby failing to act maturely, which is what one would expect from a decent parent. Any better? Still too ad hominem?
who said anything about ad hominems? or shoddy rhetoric? you're calling them a teenager while using the phrase "speaks for itself", which is a pretty immature phrase. And then you dress up your language for the reply to me to sound more mature? sounds like someone who's stuck in adolescence and pining for "adulthood" to me.
inb4 "thanks internet psychoanalyst, sugondese"
There's nothing wrong with the phrase "speaks for itself". It's a very common expression.
Not for someone trying to sound like an adult. an intelligent adult knows that no one really knows much of anything and searches for the answers instead of just giving up and saying "meh, guess it's self evident and speaks for itself". it's pretty cocky and immature to have that kind of attitude. "says who" you ask? guess it just speaks for itself. 🤷♀️
Keep posting that meme, maybe it will be relevant one day.
Not quite, I made a bland general comment to troll on a bland general post. My intention was to trigger some commies. Judging by the comments I’d say it was a success.
“Was just a prank bro”
It's relevant today
My dude. The capitalists are not the people who made those devices. Workers made those things.
My man, capital was expended developing the technology underpinning those devices. It was expended building the tools and sourcing the materials that went onto the device that the workers built. Capital was expended paying the workers for the time they took making the devices and bringing the device to market to sell.
Labor and capital are needed to function. Both can be true at the same time.
Then the capitalist should only be entitled to recuperate their initial investment + whatever personal effort they put in.
How can it be the capitalist captures profit many years after those first two occurred?
How would you manage risk?
The capitalists invest their profits in new ventures. Good capitalists choose often what is needed, bad capitalists constantly lose money and stop being capitalists.
You want to reward good decisions. So those with profitable investments should get all returns so that they can make more good investments.
So don't set a limit but tax their income proportionally.
Public capital. The smartphone is the culmination point of billions and billions of government "aimless" r&d for half a century.
That capital is created by the workers. It is extracted from them unjustly by capitalists, and then they claim they are responsible for the creation of everything just because they direct that stolen capital.
Communism is when no phone
Ifone venezuale 100 trillion dead!
This is not the flex you think it is.
Not a flex, a trigger.
Whatever you want to call it, it's idiotic strawmanning.
The best response. So common it's hard to tell if it's a real response people believe.
Global capitalism is a very, very, very recent occurrence historically.
We went from a merchant-style sort of economy to capitalism almost overnight.
And in this merchant-style sort of economy, the rich weren't an order of magnitude richer than the poor, and profiting off their backs?
FFS, monkeys quickly figure out how to trade "money" for sex. World's oldest profession anyone? We're no different. Capitalism just perfected it.
Capitalism is just dandy, with some serious government oversight. Problem being, how do you stop the overseers from getting rich legislating the oversight? Same problem in any economic policy.
Kinda funny thought I had in my 20's. The only way to truly get rich is by getting other people working for you. Never pursued that line of work, just not me, can't do it. But it's still true and always will be, no matter the economics.
tfw Marx was just a shitty millennial, apparently