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Seriously shocking to see free speech absolutism referenced by anyone on the left. Why torture yourself with garbage takes?
Oh. Just defends the USSR in the post. There isn't anyone with a more trash take than that.
Tankies start with "USA bad no matter what" and/or "USSR good no matter what" and work backwards from there.
Circle theory is real
If you have realistic and normal leftist takes you don't end up going "farther left" to soviet bootlicking. I think tankies are just too closed minded / dumb / lazy / impatient to see the incremental path towards socialism that other leftists seem to focus on.
Sometimes I wonder how much of it is right wing astroturf to make all progressives look crazy/stupid.
Don't get me wrong, I know Tankies are very real. But just how many of these people actually believe this shit?
Oh, well look up Caleb Maupin. He was a big tankie figure online and even offline, and he had literally worked for RT News in the US and presumably had been in contact with / paid by Russia.
It's not really "right wing" astroturfing, as you seem to mean it. there are well publicized social media influence operations run by rogue states, with the apparent goal of steering and polarizing political discourse the US and Europe. and you are falling for it.
I'm falling for it? In what way am I falling for it?
I took your comment to mean you believe it is actual right-wing (e.g. Republicans, etc) astroturfing, as opposed to state-sponsored trolls. But perhaps you think of those governments as right wing and that's what you meant.
So they're the ones responsible for Trump and Maga and all that bullshit. Technically responsible for our modern right wing nutjob.
Shit, it doesn't even have to be incremental. "We need to overthrow all bourgeois states NOW" may be a ridiculous take, but it, at least, is a product of idealism, unlike, say, the position of "It was actually really vital that the Soviet Union killed all those kulaks for having 100$ worth of property" that tankies have.
Oh, sweet summer child.
Defenders of the height of Mao's power in China.
Supporters of Juche.
Even once saw someone simp for Pol Pot.
Once tankies hit rock bottom, they start mining.