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Daily Discussion Thread: Sat 14 Oct 2023
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Victoria has had a First Peoples' Assembly since 2019. This is largely identical in role and function to what the federal Voice would be, but it is tasked with representing its views at a state level.
Sadly, while I try to hold on to a bit of hope, it is almost certain Victoria will not be voting Yes today.
Make it make sense.
I know people both who are voting yes and no. Whilst the odd person that votes no might have a thought through reason, there’s also many who are voting no because Don’t know, Can’t be bothered I have better things to do, Conspiracy theory xyz , I hate Albo, why should they get something special, etc. Its horrifying how many people are in this category. I think the vote is not really split between yes and no, it’s split between yes, no, and cooker. Was never gonna be a fair debate.
I think you're bang on.
One was victim to a widespread, American-style disinformation campaign. The other was not. That is the difference.
Always remember that polling was supportive of a national Indigenous advisory body until the Coalition completely abandoned their historic position of bipartisan support and started bombarding Australian voters with unadulterated lies.
We need to fucking do something about our media. That's the problem. Misinformation and propaganda outlets control almost all of the media, and tbh I think News Corp needs to be completely shuttered.
The No vote will be a terrible outcome for the Indigenous Australians, and the children of colonisers irresponsibly ignored their wishes because of a perceived "risk".
When every constitutional law expert has been ignored, then you know there's a real problem
WA has a body at the State level, also. WA will also likely return a "No" vote.
And SA has just established one. There might be more around the place too.