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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 36 points 1 year ago

It isn't open source, the licence violates point six of the open source definition

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And violates point 1 The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. .... commercial distribution is forbidden in the license.

And violates point 3 The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.

and violates point 4 Integrity of The Author’s Source Code no patch files are explicitly allowed_

and point 6 - you already covered

the futo license in question: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/raw/master/LICENSE?ref_type=heads

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 24 points 1 year ago

This would definitely fall under the "source-available" category.

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

It's definitely FOSS. (Fake Open Source Software)

[-] vector_zero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The source is available on their gitlab instance, so whether it not it conforms to some specific definition of open source, the source code is readily available for anyone to view and modify.

[-] twotone@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

modify

Nope, the license forbids that.

This is source available

[-] vector_zero@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Do you have a quote from the license to prove that? Louis Rossman himself said we're free to grab the code and edit it.

[-] Rednax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The quote: "Subject to the terms of this license, we grant you a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to access and use the code solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution."

Source: Section 2.1 of https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/raw/master/LICENSE?ref_type=heads

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

That is one definition of open source

I agree that it is great to meet all these criteria, but especially restricting commercial use is a pretty reasonable thing to do

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

I would say that Open Source, by any definition of the word, does have the assumption that you are allowed to modify and publish what you create at least in some form or another, even if it would be under a non-commercial clause or a license with other requirements.

When the licence explicitly says all you are allowed to do is access the code "solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution", that's not open source.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

When the licence explicitly says all you are allowed to do is access the code "solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution", that's not open source.

I'd say that is open source. But not free and open source

[-] twotone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OSI's definition is the oldest and original definition. It's decades old at this point.

It's source available, nothing more.

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