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[-] centof@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It is vastly simpler for the government to send everyone a check or deposit than to provide free housing, healthcare and food to people and decide who is 'worthy' of receiving them. And let's be honest most social programs in America are the first thing on the chopping block. At least with a UBI, its very easy for the average person to tell when its been cut. If only a few 'poor' people participate in a program, it will be a lot easier for the government to cut it than if every legal adult in the country gets it.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly, whipping on people who recieve benefits is a useful and convenient tool to have in reserve for politicians who are failing and need to deflect attention from that.

[-] Cookiesandcreamclouds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup. I recieve them because I am disabled with a progressive condotion and of course, poor. But I'm lumped in with those called "leeches". I'm just trying to feed myself and my family. I will shamelessly swipe my EBT card as many times as I must.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, free Healthcare is already being done in most of the first world and free housing is too, albeit in fewer places and with restrictions. Free food is trickier but I’m sure there’s a way to figure it out.

Imo the issue with UBI isn’t that it would get cut, it’s that it wouldn’t get raised according to inflation. It already happens with “conventional” income so I think just flat out giving the product with no adjustments needed is better, it’s not like as time goes on people are gonna need “more houses”.

[-] centof@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It is not like it has to be either or anyway. I would certainly support healthcare and other similar programs but would caution against making them overly restrictive. The restrictions of the programs are the problem as they are excessively restrictive to stop people from using the programs. Effectively these restrictions mean only ~1/4 people eligible for assistance actually get it.

See this paragraph from the post authors blog.

Before the pandemic even hit, 13 million Americans were living in poverty entirely disconnected from all federal assistance programs. The best functioning program is our food assistance program which reaches 2 out of 3 people in poverty, and lasts for 3 months every 3 years. Our worst is our temporary assistance for needy families program which varies by state, and in my home state of Louisiana reaches only 4 out of every 100 families living in poverty. Our disability assistance reaches 1 out of every 5 Americans with disabilities, and the average waiting time to qualify is two years. Our housing assistance reaches 1 out of every 4 Americans who qualify. Our unemployment insurance reached about 1 out of every 4 unemployed people in 2019. Over and over again, with targeted program after targeted program, our safety net tends to let three out of every four people fall right through it.

I would just prefer a UBI like program over other alternatives since its focus is on eliminating burdensome restrictions that serve to discourage people from using the existing programs.

I have a progressive illness, my brother in law moved in with myself and my husband. They are both disabled as well, but only one of us can work full time. We would be absolutely fucked without EBT. I am so thankful for it.

this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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