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It feels like every time I find a podcast about security/networking/technology the hosts end up saying some pretty off-color stuff, or I look them up and they also host right wing podcasts. Are there any that are more leftist, hosted by LGBT peeps, or at least not actively bigoted ?

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[-] reclipse@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

Man everything is political these days

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Man everything is political ~~these days~~

Always has been.

[-] reclipse@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know any one who actively seeks out the political belives of the creators/hosts of the shows they watch even though the show itself has nothing to do with politics.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

K, you should. To make sure you're not supporting a piece of shit by giving them your time, clicks, and views. But you do you if you're okay supporting potential bigots.

It's not even a high effort task, just find the name of the podcast and add "political leanings" or something similar in the web search. It's the minimal effort required to be an informed consumer.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Most of my life we never cared about this kind of stuff unless someone was leading black shirts though the streets. We listened to what they had to say about the topic in question and moved on.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Most of my life we never cared about this kind of stuff

You just described privilege very nicely, well done. Other people have to care about this stuff or we lose human rights.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Pretty well until everyone went mental in the 2010s on both sides.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

on both sides.

Lmao, I knew it was coming.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Look, I have no time for bigotry, but you can't deny there was also a time a few years back where progressives were going ott declaring everyone and everything problematic in some way and making itbalmost embarrassing to be part of the left. That admittedly seems to have settled now and it's the right that are going too far. Not being able to criticise your own side when they're going too far isn't mature politics.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

The complacency that the left was calling out AKA "declaring everything problematic" and people like you not taking that seriously is exactly why we have seen a rise in "the right going too far."

Let me leave with you a quote from MLK:

First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

Your attitude screams of being a moderate, and I beg you rethink that attitude.

Because of people who thought liberals ask for too much and go too far, we have lost our right to abortion and now we have laws in most non liberal states trying to ban people from being who they want to be based on their gender. These are a direct result of the people liberals were screaming about being complacent and being the "white moderate" as MLK describes above.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't live in the US.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago
[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, because as a man of Jewish heritage I absolutely love Nazis don't I?

I have no time for Nazis and the far right, I have very little time for the centre right in most cases either. However PR is a thing and you have to recognise when you're alienating people rather than winning them over.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, because as a man of Jewish heritage I absolutely love Nazis don’t I?

i'm sorry but i sincerely don't care. it makes no difference to me what you look like or whether you do or don't like Nazis―you've had two interactions today and both times you've sounded indistinguishable from the cringe white centrist-to-chud in the comic who thinks Both Sides Are The Same and is mad society isn't catering to them anymore. as far as i'm concerned, you're that guy until you demonstrate otherwise.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

you can’t deny

Oh, contraire.

progressives were going ott declaring everyone and everything problematic in some way and making itbalmost embarrassing to be part of the left

There's a lot to unpack there, but I'm not gonna.

Not being able to criticise your own side when they’re going too far isn’t mature politics.

Who was insinuating that progressives can't be criticized? Where did that line come from? We're talking about doing research into your podcasters and content creators to make sure that they support human rights, that's it.

[-] reclipse@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Now if you don't do thorough research on the political leanings of the people whose content you consume, some people will call you bigot.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who called you a bigot?

My comment:

But you do you if you’re okay supporting potential bigots.

Idk how to address this without being snarky, but maybe work on reading comprehension. I'm calling the podcasters you don't research potential bigots, not even bigots, potential bigots. Which is to say I'm not condemning them or you to being bigots but you don't know whether they are or not without researching it, therefore they are potential bigots. You are not a bigot, the podcasters you don't research are potential bigots.

[-] reclipse@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

maybe work on reading comprehension

I wasn't just taking about people in this perticular thread.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

So you're saying you get called a bigot a lot in other conversations?

[-] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

The kind of people who have to deal with those shows that have "nothing to do with politics" randomly indicating that they deny that person's human rights.

And the kind of people who care about the first category.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I kind of get what you're saying, but what you might be missing is that we are long past the point where politics is just a disagreement on how to achieve the same general goal. The mainstream GOP is full on pro-bigotry, anti-freedom, and if not openly fascist, they sure do seem to do a lot of fascist-like things. This is not hyperbole.

Additionally, money is (and always has been) the lever to obtain power, so knowingly giving money (directly or indirectly) to a person who will use that money to promote or assist these kind of beliefs becomes a moral question, not a financial one. You may not want to believe it is so, but it is so.

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