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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

you can't say someone like trump got cancelled when he is like fighting for presidency of the largest military cult to ever exist or whatever he's up to these days.

If you want to establish cancel culture as a thing you have to

show that people can be barred from publicity and financial success

and

show that it is different from what happened in the past with reactions to scandals.

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No true Scotsman, eh?

Johny Depp? Dude lost work. It impacted him. He was cancelled.

Kevin spacey is another one. Louis CK. These are people who had work impacted because of alleged behaviors and actions they took.

Not gonna get more nuanced with you about it. It's a real thing. You've been given plenty of examples.

[-] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Kevin Spacey, Louis CK, Chris Avellone, Johnathan Depp...

They all had work while fighting thier allegations.

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Weird, what you seem to call "cancel culture", I would call "consequences for actions"

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

They are all rich and famous, Louis ck is a self confessed sexual harasser.

All of them are still around, rich, and have a platform. Nothing that happened to them is different from past scandals.

Shit Jonny Dep is definitely a shitty abusive person and somehow everyone thinks he's a pure victim because his propaganda campaign was so effective.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I just did. Lindsay Ellis got her carreer fucked by it.
Why? Just because the word changes doesn't mean the principle isn't still the same. And just because reactionaries like to call any mild backlash "cancelling" doesn't mean it isn't a thing.