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PC gaming heading to ARM? (lemmy.ca)
submitted 2 years ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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First we got this:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/93943/qualcomm-snapdragon-elite-4-6-tflops-more-gpu-power-than-xbox-series/index.html

Then this:

https://www.androidauthority.com/nvidia-amd-windows-arm-chips-3378766/

Then this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/intel-stock-drops-on-report-nvidia-is-working-on-an-arm-based-pc-chip/ar-AA1iIxvo

Let's not hide it: Intel, AMD and nVidia are the PC gaming industry as we know it. Qualcomm surpassing the Xbox X series and the three (Intel/AMD/nVidia) pushing, or be pushed, towards RISC PC may change few things. But ARM RISC PC also mean lot of more competition like Samsung working on CPU using 5nm processes... this come at costs of the historical traditional PC's software database.

Makes you think, I guess.

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[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

put money in ARM’s pockets, so that’s not great

What is wrong with ARM?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

The general problem is the proprietary architecture and overall rent-seeking behavior. As a side effect of this, they're working against the wider ARM PC market, e.g.:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/11/17/arm-suing-qualcomm-keep-its-latest-technology-coming-out/10723918002/

It's so bad that they act like a cartel whenever they think they can get away with it, in seemingly bizarre ways:

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/arm-architecture-and-its-former-md-to-pay-penalties-for-attempted-rigging-of-university-tender

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In the RISC space they are, currently, almost de facto monopolistic (we'll how RISC-V will go, hopefully). X86 is fought between AMD and Intel, this gives us a leeway on how much scummy either of the two are. ARM is very competitive because they chased many industries so far, the last one is x86: if Intel and AMD go for ARM's RISC, they will basically subdue themselves under ARM.

It's not about ARM being a good or bad company, the issue is when a company become monopolistic they are basically forced into change their founding ground.

Valve is an example of a company that tries to avoid monopolies (even self one) as much as possible.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'd argue that any monopoly is inherently bad.