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Safe Streets Rebel's protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said...

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[-] moss@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

I live in the area and the streets are just clogged with these fucking autonomous cars. Traffic is slower, people end up having to swerve, it's just a constant persistent headache. If I had it my way, they'd all be off the streets and into the crusher

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Almost like public transit is better than self driving taxis

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Public transit is better, but self-driving taxis are absolutely coming to every city in this country, which is great if you live in a city like mine that has little to no public transport infrastructure.

Also, automated taxis can service more rural areas, which is the key driver of lack of public transport in many "commuter cities."

Luddites gonna Luddite, but this tech is coming, and it's coming to logistics and taxis first.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but SanFran ain't one of those. Taxis have the same problem cars do, which is size.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can tell you aren't from SF. Because no one from here calls it SanFran. But I digress. Uber is huge here because it is where it started. And buses come with other baggage. Many homeless people and plenty of pervs doing shady things deter people from using the system regularly. Having seen the system it is substantial, but getting out of the city is the issue. San Francisco proper is very small 7x7 miles (49 square miles, Easter egg from being 1849 and the 49ers). But going anywhere outside of the city is where things take forever and why most affluent people do not use those systems. 2 hours back and forth is not economic on time.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, I'm not. Homeless on our public transit isn't an issue because our police actually responds to driver calls.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I am well aware of both the benefits of public transport and this image specifically. This is irrelevant to our discussion

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's not if I'm arguing that self driving taxis are stupid

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Self driving taxis aren't stupid. They better fit the existing infrastructure within America.

Taxis as a whole generally serve a different market function than public transportation in the US.

Im all for gutting zoning, and building dense, walkable cities, full of public transportation free at POS - but that's not the world we live in.

Self-driving taxis are such a massive net boon for people that it's not even a comparison to the alternative

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

On that I will agree, but I still stand that self driving taxis are stupid. BUT, they are necessary due to how NA cities are built, and getting rid of them would require many other changes as well

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