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Pro-Palestine protesters chant ‘Gas the Jews’ outside Sydney Opera House
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
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Yeah, and I would argue the Nazis don’t own the swastika. I’m not going to tell Buddhist and Hindu temples to take down their symbol because someone misappropriated it. Just like the IRA, Hamas has a militant wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, and a political wing that I’ll make a rough comparison to Sinn Fein which has absolutely been a part of Northern and the Republic of Ireland government.
Also, that election that ended up with Hamas in power was like 18 years ago which also happens to be the median age in Gaza. The majority of people in Gaza have never voted for Hamas.
The majority of people in nazi Germany didn't vote for Hitler either, yet he was in power, yet the allies flattened the whole country, yet the swastika is banned in most countries.
There is no reason to wave a Palestinia flag at all. Just use signs Calling for restraint and help for the civilians.
As long as Palestinia is a thing, Hamas is as well, and their proclaimed goal is to kill all jews in Israel (or rather all citizens of Israel in general) wich makes the just as bad as the Nazi, although less capable.
No, the point in waving a Palestinian flag is to support the recognition of an independent Palestinian state. You can support that without supporting the terrorists that appropriated it.
Personally, I'd like to show up with both an Israeli and Palestinian flag, but I'm worried I'd just be jumped by the extremists on either side. I think a two-state solution must be the direction we go, not just "restraint and help for civilians." Both Israel and Palestine must be independent, but getting there is an incredibly difficult thing that may not be possible without serious concessions from both sides, which isn't likely to happen with the current leadership on both sides.
Nah man, a two sate solution is impossible by now. And its not just the leadership.
I think it is possible. Fatah seem willing to play ball, so the ball is largely in Israel's court now. But if Israel keeps responding to Palestinian extremism by killing regular citizens, it's not going to happen. This war has drastically delayed any potential for a two state solution, so it could be decades before either side is willing to come to the table again.
What else should they do? Conduct suicide missions into Gaza to get the terrorists "without killing civilians" (there would still be many casualtys among civilians, especially because Hamas uses them as shield)
Just let the terrorists do whatever they want?
Idk, I'm not a general. Maybe their strategy is their best option.
But that's irrelevant. What matters is that people on the ground are dying and they blame Israel. Whatever meager trust that may have existed is absolutely gone. So a two state solution isn't going to work because people in Gaza won't want to come to the table because they won't trust Israel.
100% agreement. But, the people of Israel don't want to sit to a table anymore either, at least right now.
Sure. They have an urgency to eliminate Hamas, and they're unlikely to agree to any kind of agreement that doesn't involve Hamas leadership being removed, and I doubt the people of Gaza have any kind of ability or will to deliver them to the Israeli military.
Yes. That's the problem, and people in the west being antisemitic and supporting the terrorists doesn't make it better for anyone. It just makes Israel not listen to the west anymore, if it was up to the Israeli military there wouldn't be a Gaza anymore, USA UK and EU are literally the only thing holding back their military from just making a Glass Desert. The situation is so Tense that its basically not solvable with words. And using weapons will result in a gigantic humanitarian Desaster, worse than its already.
You're still saying anyone who supports Palestine is antisemitic
Yes. And hates gays.
You're an idiot
The fact that both the flag and the movement for Palestinian statehood predate Hamas significantly is evidence your claim holds little water.
We will see.