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Yep! Both parties fucking LOVE cops.
Absolutely! Probably 70%+ of the overall population realise that ACAB, but maybe 5% of Congress and the White House, if even that!
Proportionate representation my ass!
The state has a monopoly on power and violence. You need to be rich to get into politics and an amoral selfish racist asshole to enforce the will of capital for slightly more peanuts than the other guys.
You're sadly mistaken. Almost 80% of the population, when polled, desires police funding to stay the same or be increased.
Nope. Those are push polls deliberately designed to skew the results.
Example: a prominent pollster released results claiming that most black people want more cops in their neighbourhoods.
It was subsequently revealed that the way that the question was asked heavily implied that the only options were to do absolutely nothing about crime or increase the number of cops.
By that time, the false narrative had taken root and been quoted as absolute fact by powerful and influential people, so the revelation received much less attention than the original misleading message, which you're now contributing to.
Didn't realize Pew Research was so unreliable. /s
They sometimes are, yeah. Even the poll the article you're linking to falsely assumes no alternative.
When people are asked whether they want funding for cops to be diverted to other ways of preventing and reacting to crime, the consensus is in the affirmative.
Just because the establishment trusts and uses Pew a lot doesn't mean that it's not guilty of dishonest spin.
One supposes you have evidence for this?
Here you go. And here's another for good measure.
From your own source:
ACAB is not the majority opinion, quite clearly.
That's heavily influenced by the aforementioned "it's cops or crime running amok" false narrative that establishment politicians and cop mouthpieces such as the NYT and most other mainstream media outlets spread ad nauseaum.
If ACAB isn't a popular opinion, why would 88% of people say that significant changes are needed? Do you think it's the uniforms they take offense to? The cars?
Or maybe they understandably think that the people murdering them with impunity are bastards.
That policing needs to be reformed and ACAB are not synonymous statements to most people. Regardless of whether it's because of a false narrative (and I agree with you on the matter), it's not currently a majority opinion, and treating it like it is is a serious strategic mistake.
I know many folks who want reform of policing and realize there are deep problems with them. I don't know anyone who believes ACAB.
Purely anecdotal, but it makes it easier to believe that you are correct and it's not a vast majority of people who believe that.
That’s insane to me, not saying you’re lying or wrong, but the only people I know who don’t believe ACAB are folks over 55 and those closely connected to the cops in their personal lives but even the latter isn’t a monolith. I for sure haven’t met a young person that wasn’t at least of the ‘fuck the police’ mindset since 2020