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[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We can make it harder to get a gun. But there are so many already in the US its difficult to rein that back in.

[-] murmelade@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More guns is the solution, like in schools. Arm the custodians! Arm the vice-principals! Arm the unarmed!

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Tangential, I find the push to arm teachers so weird. I can only imagine the job offers. "Your job will require you to teach children, raise them and show kindness and compassion. Also you need to kill them if they start shooting."

[-] Staccato@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"Also while working in war zones might come with danger pay, you're a teacher so we will pay you barely starvation wages and you'll have to buy supplies from your personal money."

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I support gun rights but I think it’s crazy to think about arming teachers. It just seems like such a disconnect to me.

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

We should probably train the cops not to run away like a bunch of cowards.

There’s been a few shootings where the school had a cop on duty, who was armed, and the cop ran out of the building when the shooting started.

Should be a crime to abandon people, let alone children, like that

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. I get being scared but you signed up to do the job.

I was a volunteer cop for many years. I cringe when I hear about cops refusing to enter a building or running away from the gun fight.

I get there are times when it makes sense, single gunman barricaded in a room, yeah, maybe wait for more people or SWAT but they could have saved many lives by doing something.

Hell most of these turds shot themselves when confronted. It is rare for there to be a shootout with the cops.

Why I believe in police reform so badly. I admit I want a unicorn, but I want a cop who is compassionate and enforces the law without prejudice. A person who can see it from the lens of the person who he is dealing with but can also kick ass when needed.

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Combining your comment and another one talking about how America's mental health also sucks and often makes illnesses worse the thing about America is that everything is corrupted and lazly done ether it be our politicians or the medical field we have the services people need but corruption is making it so when shit happens to you you might as well be on your own

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Well if you support more people having guns, it's inevitable people are going to look for solutions to some of those people shooting up schools

Also, it's the same people who trust teachers with guns in the classroom that think teachers can't be trusted with books in the classroom.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Arm all of the kids while we're at it. Only a good kid with a gun can stop a bad kid with a gun.

[-] Ghost33313@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

You know how many babies get abducted from hospitals?! Arm them too!

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I dunno about you and yours, but my babies come from the stork with arms

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, better do nothing then.

[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not what i said.

[-] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Just have the same beuracroracy you have for vehicles. Yearly registration. And same licensing as liquor. Only licensed sellers.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Implement a buyback program like Australia did. They stopped the sales and paid above market value for any gun for a certain period of time. It works.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Australia had nowhere near the saturation of gun ownership America has, and the common firearms there were simpler and cheaper. A gun buy-back would be much more expensive.

Then there's the differences in public sentiment. It's pretty obvious the American right-wing would overwhelmingly refuse to sell their guns at any price, and they represent the majority of gun owners. With current lefty distrust of police and rising extremists in the right, left wing gun owners don't seem likely to willingly disarm either. If anything I've seen an uptick in leftists arming themselves.

But even if I'm wrong, a buy-back would do nothing if we don't stop the sales of new guns first which would require an amendment to the Constitution effectively repealing one of the bill of rights. That's pretty much the highest hurdle possible in the American government.

[-] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

what would you say to the parent or loved ones who had someone then stabbed to death after the buyback?

"oh its fine it wasn't a gun at least. hey at least it was 1 and not 20 people right??"

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