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[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago

or, you know, just switch to linux. several distros are basically just as usable out of box as anything microsoft has released.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 35 points 10 months ago

I've tried and gaming is a lot better than it was, but I still prefer Windows in that department though I do stick with SteamOS for the Steam Deck and haven't bothered running Windows on it.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

yeah I'm mid transition myself - probably switch for good when win10 goes EoL. I tried win11 and hate it.

[-] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Same here. Tried Windows 11 on my kid's PC and hated it.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

If only SteamOS was made generally available.
And I honestly prefer the non-terminal solutions that are generally in Windows.

Users here generally seem to forget that
1: Not all users are power users
2: Professional software is generally not developed for Linux but either Windows or Mac. Linux is an afterthought
3: Not all programs run as you'd need it to. Wine and Proton can work for single use but I don't see daily activity going very well with it.

For downvoters on point 3 saying they do it:
I tried the EA launcher with Proton on the SteamDeck. It's a hacky solution and in general a not supported environment. Good luck getting help from EA if something goes wrong.
This also applies to general work environments: HPE (server brand of HP) for example denies support if it sees a non-HPE product that may interfere with your support case. They ask you to remove it and then send another support file.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

2: Professional software is generally not developed for Linux but either Windows or Mac. Linux is an afterthought

Really depends. E.g. Houdini, Blender and Nuke are Linux-first as Linux took over IRIX's market share, and generally that of Unix workstations.

All three predate Windows 95, the whole PC and Windows platform back then was considered cheap toys for accounting and management, not serious computing.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good to know. It also depends highly on the industry, industry age (e.g. 3D modeling isnt 300 years old) and target group.
Buuuut I need to say it...

Generally

I wrote that word for a meaning. ;)

[-] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

i run dual-boot on my PC, these days i'm only switching over to windows for gaming since ~~nvidia GPUs don't get a lot of support on the linux side~~ nvidia doesn't go out of there way to support linux as much as AMD does

[-] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

What kind of support are you missing? I run Linux exclusively with an Nvidia card and see regular driver updates (not as frequently as the kernel, for example, but still).

Is Ray Tracing and various DLSS features available out of the box now? Last I looked into it they were still a bit unstable / hackable to get properly setup if they worked at all.

[-] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 0 points 10 months ago

i didn't phrase it too well; what i meant was that nvidia doesn't support linux as much as AMD seems to.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago

nvidia GPUs don't get a lot of support on the linux side.

First time I'm hearing about this. What do you mean? You get regular, automatic driver updates and they work... what is missing?

Older drivers for older cards are also available, although this may depend on the distribution rather than Nvidia.

[-] PleasantAura@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Vulkan is basically unsupported by nVidia on anything before the 20-series on Linux. My 1060 6GB can only manage around 4-5 FPS at 1080p in some games as a result while others work totally fine. In addition, the drivers aren't open source, so no one can go in and fix that problem.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Windows on steam deck is the most awful experience. There is a reason why tablet PC's and non-laptop portables failed until apple used fanboy power to make tablets viable again.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I've done something different. I just have two computers. One for just playing games (windows), and one for everything else (Mac).

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

yeah. I have a tiny-pc (whatever the ultra sff is called now) that will run w10 forever - supported or not, for a specific use-case, but the desktop i'm trying to transition to will be linux. already moved my laptop to linux (both mint because it's easy). have a different laptop that was decent 10 years ago that I use as a testbench to try out other, non-mint distros.

long term i'll move to 3x computers but daily really only use two.

That's all well and good, but choosing Microsoft is choosing their bullshit too. It's your right to choose, but if you're sharing a rowboat with an alligator don't be amazed when it eats your chicken. (or something like that)

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Especially in comparison to windows 10.

It's not gonna be getting feature updates, even if support continues, and W10/Linux desktop feature parity is a lot closer already than one would think.

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Not really an option for the M$ dependent corpos

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

yes, but the Enterprise level license usually lasts longer than the individual license does. Enterprise level you're basically stuck in that ecosystem, you've got tools written for it. I remember when IE6 was the latest hotness and then everyone struggled to get away from it for years and years but integral revenue generating tools relied on it.

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