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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bad faith argument. The Left is very much pro-social safety nets and pro-mental health supports. It's kind of our whole fucking thing aside from worker's having ownership of their labor.

The issue is not enough Americans understand the basic function of government, let alone how new policy becomes law, let alone how fucked they're getting by their government and not having the werewithall to understand that they've had their social safety nets eroded consistently by Republican politicians since the Nixon era or earlier. So the only answer that seems to stick in the minds of anyone is 'libruls wanna take my guns away!" well, yeah, take the guns away of the known criminals and known mental cases because we're not making much headway on the "improving social safety nets" part of the plan.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

No, the left says that it's in favor of this shit. It never does that, even when they have total control over a state. (Specifically, what passes for the left in the US; I can't really speak for what the left is doing elsewhere in the world.) Look at California, where Dems have a supermajority; the things that they say they want, like affordable housing for everyone, walkable, high-density cities, good public transit, public education that works, police/criminal justice reform, etc., aren't getting done because everyone gets all NIMBY when it's near them, and people are losing their goddamn minds over homeless people just existing.

OTOH, they're more than fine with taking away the right to keep and bear arms.

At least Republicans are completely up-front about being awful shitbags.

[-] Piers@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Just because the right likes to screech about how your centrists are extreme leftitists doesn't change the fact they aren't leftists. It's just a smokescreen for the rightwing to cover just how extreme they've become.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

You can call them whatever you want, but Dems are what passes for the left in the US.

If you're going to move the goalposts and say that Dems aren't the left, then you also can't rationally say that the left is doing anything at all, since the left in the US has never had any real power then.

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