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New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe
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What about their effectiveness?
I get that the first few versions might have stemmed the tide of the pandemic early on .. but how effective are the new doses now?
I'm not an antivacer but I do question the way the pandemic was handled and continues to be handled. I trust scientists, I trust the medical community, I trust our current level of knowledge and expertise ... I even trust our government to do the best they can with what they have ... I just don't trust seeing big corporate interests quietly influencing everything in the background.
I certainly don't trust anyone or anything that reprimands me or is threatened by my questions or concerns.
I would feel a whole lot better about all this if corporate and financial interests were completely disconnected from all our health care and pharmaceutical systems. Basically, anything that has to do with human bodily health should not be controlled or deeply influenced by monied interests.
What if that 5% resist came with a temporary 36 hour debuff that made your character unplayable?
Edit: Lmao at people downvoting what they think is an opinion? I’m just adding context that a lot of people do go through pretty severe symptoms. But sure, keep ignoring/downplaying them and complaining about low vaccination rates 😆
Show me data indicating that a significant number of people who receive the vaccine are affected to that extent.
Anecdotally, nobody I know - including myself after being vaccinated multiple times - has had any significant negative reaction unless you count your arm being sore. "Unplayable" is extreme.
Edit:Wild - thanks everyone for your input. This just says something about basing a knowledge on a limited sample size. I see that it really depends on the person now.
I personally received the Pfizer shot as did just about everyone I know.
My first and third vaccine knocked me out for 2 days at a time.. unable to even get out of bed.
Second one, after I'd booked time off work deliberately so I wouldn't surprise anyone by not being there, I had no issues at all...
The COVID boosters make me feel moderately sick and my arm very sore for 2-3 days, in a way most other vaccines don’t. The one time I had COVID I felt like I was one bad day away from winding up in the hospital for weeks, so I’ll take the vaccine every single time I can. If anything I think I feel so bad after the vaccine because COVID itself fucks me up so bad.
My work gave everyone who got it two days off to recover. It's more like a 20% chance of a 24-48 hour debuff, but you can't seriously tell me that you haven't heard of anyone having side effects.
Reading all these people's reactions makes me think I got the placebo. It did nothing to me. It was the pfizer edition, if that makes any difference.
my second and third knocked me out for 3 full days. I was no longer able to get out of bed. I had severe chills and extreme nausea. I practically puked my guts out for 3 days. i know multiple other people that had very similar reactions.
I've had 5 shots of Moderna now, most recently last week. The first one made me feel miserable for a day. I was having chills, and my entire body was sore. I took several naps that day. The others made me sore and a little tired for a day.
All told, not the worst side effects, but certainly more than a sore arm. And still entirely worth the mild inconvenience.
I would call my first reaction nearly "unplayable." I was having issues working (remotely even, a desk job), and I just wanted to sleep most of the day. But people react differently. Sounds like you had no issues, so good for you.
My first shot, Moderna, knocked me out for about 36 hours. I could only muster up enough energy to get out of bed for a few minutes to eat a bit of cereal and drink some Gatorade. So there's an anecdote from someone you don't know.
That being said, I'd still take that for the 5% resistance boost.
Every shot after the first has knocked me on my ass for 24 hours minimum. Pro vax here. This is a real thing
My pre-wife was down for the count for 48-36 hours after getting a vaccine shot. The second round was a little better but not by much.
I understand I'm just some random person on the Internet but I'm giving factual information in interest of continuing the discussion.
The interesting thing is that while I was fine after the shots, I was not fine being sick with covid (post shot). I was on bed rest for about 5 days and all I could do was wake up, take aspirin and Tylenol, take a shower because covered in cold sweats, drink lemon ginger tea with honey to soothe the throat, watch 30ish minutes of YouTube and knock myself out with melatonin to repeat the cycle.
She, on the other hand, was fine getting covid post shot.
Yeah, I got COVID after being vaxed too. My biggest symptom was just complete exhaustion and body aches. Mild cough for a couple days. It lasted about 5 days for me too. That said, I wonder how much worse it would have been if I wasn't vaccinated.
I can't say I wondered how much worse it would have been without a shot but that's because it was super bad for me with one ha.
I thought it was funny..
On hardcore mode with permanent death the chance of a short term de-buff for a long term buff is worth it.
Pick the right time so you don't miss out on any one-time events if you're unlucky.
Love this analogy.