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[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we're going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it's like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

[-] grue@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn't before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

For every person who makes up bs statistics, there's a 1000% increase in the number of sad kittens. It's indisputably negative.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

But that’s not even remotely true…

[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is extremely 1000% true that vapes ARE IN FACT A NEGATIVE for TEMPTING NON-SMOKERS TO START VAPING.

Now quit lying!

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