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[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Great, I get to choose between two real estate developers for city council. Guess I'll vote for the one who doesn't have a history of domestic abuse.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

First past the post doing what it does.

Still worth pulling the "less evil" lever for, you know, less evil.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

yeah people keep saying that but i've been voting for less evil my whole life and all i get is more evil

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Hey, uh, I think this thing is broken

Nah, it's working as intended, if you look back here both levers are pressing this button that says 'Barbarism'

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

This is the thing they can't admit. That the system isn't broken. It works exactly how its meant to, for the people ots meant to wirk for.

For libs its always some magic bullet, some minor reform, one reversal of one policy and it'll all be fixed. "The problem is 'first past the poll' we need 'ranked choice' then elections will work." For example

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Ohh yeah, you always get more evil, but it is earnestly less of it.

You prefer +1 evil or +10 evil? That's our system of government. Push for voting reforms, which neither evil likes, but you are more likely to get with +1 evil then +10.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay then clearly dismantling the system of government that only produces evil ourcomes is the place to start

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Typical hexbear! Suggesting we should address systemic issues to improve society somewhat. Don't you see +1 evil is the best we can ever have? I am very intelligent and an Adult in the Room(tm)

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course, but maybe not to start. To start, vote for less evil. Next, mutual aid. Next, election reform. Next, unionization and systemic social support. Do as many "nexts" at the same time as possible.

Always be fucking up facists.

After that, we probally disagree, but that's fine. I think we both will be walking a long way together.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

hmmm yeah sounds like the entire system of government is dogshit and needs to go

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

It does sound like that, but have you considered vote blue no matter who?

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I prefer not evil.

Stop supporting evil.

[-] becausechemistry@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Typical hexbear user

Either you’re creating anti democratic propaganda or you’re consuming and regurgitating it. Fuck off.

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Typical hexbear user observing the world. Maybe next time if you vote hard enough it'll finally work

[-] nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

yeah i'm sure not voting definitely will change things

oh wait

and before you go on about doing other stuff than voting, you know that voting doesn't keep you from also doing those things? not voting is just bad, no good. you're not giving the state the finger you're laying down and saying 'do with me what you will idc.'

Precisely. I voted today and it took a few minutes of my time. There was still plenty of time in the morning to keep working on the things I think will make more of an impact re: improving things somewhat. Mutual aid and anything else in the bucket of "resisting tyrannical government" is much easier when it's only +1 more evil rather than +10.

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Nah I think the people who constantly make the most barbaric decisions or excuse why they can't revert them are the ones being anti-democratic.

Wouldn't those with the power given to them by the population who then act against what those voters want be the anti-democratic ones?

I struggle to see how potential voters pointing out they never get what they ask for is the reason for any of our problems today.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Exactly.

Stop giving votes to those who don't deserve it.

Just stop.

When the douche beats the turd sandwich with 50 million votes, it encourages douches.

When the douche beats the turd sandwich with 3000 votes, it encourages people who aren't either.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

It isnt first past the post. It is bourgeois democracy. Things would be the same if there was one party or twenty so long as the bourgeoisie own the state.

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