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I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

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[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (47 children)

So you do fundamentally agree that democracy is good, correct? And you would be opposed to a society where a ruling class pretended it was sanctioned by the working class, right?

Anyway, here are the 10 principles as they were originally written. How do you feel about them?

  1. We must give our all in the struggle to unify the entire society with the revolutionary ideology of the Great Leader Kim Il Sung.
  2. We must honor the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung with all our loyalty.
  3. We must make absolute the authority of the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung.
  4. We must make the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung's revolutionary ideology our faith and make his instructions our creed.
  5. We must adhere strictly to the principle of unconditional obedience in carrying out the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung's instructions.
  6. We must strengthen the entire party's ideology and willpower and revolutionary unity, centering on the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung.
  7. We must learn from the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung and adopt the communist look, revolutionary work methods and people-oriented work style.
  8. We must value the political life we were given by the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung, and loyally repay his great political trust and thoughtfulness with heightened political awareness and skill.
  9. We must establish strong organizational regulations so that the entire party, nation and military move as one under the one and only leadership of the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung.
  10. We must pass down the great achievement of the revolution by the Great Leader comrade Kim Il Sung from generation to generation, inheriting and completing it to the end.
[โ€“] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Anyway, here are the 10 principles as they were originally written. How do you feel about them?

That's weird they wrote em in English

[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (13 children)

No, what's weird is you won't answer my question.

Perhaps you know that on one hand, if you condemn these, you will have become an apostate in the eyes of North Korea stans...

[โ€“] Maoo@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Why would you expect them to answer your questions? I was talking to you, not them.

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