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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's exploitation for money. Of course it's worth legislating over.

This is a collective problem where abusive nonsense makes far more money than selling goods and services to allegedly rational consumers. All excuses have failed. It's not just in "free" games, it's not just in shovelware, it's not just "cosmetics," it's not-- it's fuckin' everywhere, okay? The quantities of money involved are obscene. No off-the-shelf game should be capable of taking thousands of actual dollars in one sitting.

Even if there's no dice being rolled - that is plainly the same manipulative valueless pit as gambling. Not even for a game part of the game. For hats. For a model that's already in the game you paid for, deliberately looking like a twenty-year-old ten-kilobyte file in a game you also already paid for.

This is a real problem.

There's only one real solution.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If someone can figure out a reasonable way to legislate against FOMO, then by all means, go for it. I already agreed it's a problem, but it's pretty much the base of capitalism - make something, put a price on it, and if someone deems it worth the price, they buy it. So aside from a complete restructuring of what at this point is the main economic system of the world, I'm not really expecting much to be done about expensive cosmetics in video games.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

As if ending microtransactions means destroying capitalism. Jesus fucking Christ, do people get weird about this topic.

This business model did not exist fifteen years ago. Games did fine. What we can do about dumb shit in video games costing obscene amounts of real money for no reason, is... stop that.

It is that simple.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, actually. Because there's nothing different about microtransactions than anything else being sold today, and realistically, microtransactions in video games are just about the least important problem with our economic system. We have much more serious problems that still can't get regulation. Nobody with an ounce of authority is gonna bother specifically with video game costumes.

So if you actually want government mandated change on this particular problem, the only real way that's happening is a wholesale revision or rejection of capitalism itself by the government, which, yeah, is pretty far fetched.

Our real options are just...not buying these things. Don't support it, ever, even for things that appeal to you. Advocate for others to reject it as well. It's probably not gonna work well or quickly, but it's gonna be the most effective thing we as consumers can actually do.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oh cool, we'll just solve all other problems first, yeah? What's your timeline on that? A couple months? A year?

This is about money.

This is about a business model.

This is about a business model that's infecting a multi-billion-dollar industry. It's plenty important.

"Just don't buy it!" has done absolutely fucking nothing to stop this infection. I'm not-supporting-it as hard as I can, and hey guess what, systemic problems cannot be blamed on individual action. If only we had some mechanism for collectively handling those issues.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

It's never gonna happen. That's my point. And where did I blame "individual action" here? I'm on your side on this one, bud. I'm just being realistic about it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Fatalism is dull, and "just don't buy it" is individual action.

"Tough shit, nothing will happen" is not being on anyone's side. Empty pessimism is a waste of everyone's time.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's not what Fatalism is, pointing out what can realistically be done isn't "blaming", and this is a Lemmy comment thread. All there is here is time wasting.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not realistic, it's not all that can be done, and insisting we're simply fucked is absogoddamnlutely what fatalism is.

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