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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah except it commands that both be put to death which wouldn't make sense if it was raping a boy. Especially since the Bible also says not to kill someone raped.

Secondly the exodus didn't happen.

Third Paul condemns it twice and no matter what games you play with the translation it still comes out to don't be gay.

Fourth if it was a bad on child molestation why not just say it? There are words in Hebrew and Greek for child.

[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am not defending the ethics of the context, as I said before.

Consent has no place in Levitical law. It simply not a variable. Rape your daughter-in-law or consensual sex… doesn’t matter, death to both. Rape or consensual sex with an aunt? Death to both. Screw an animal? Also death to both. Force one of your male slaves (of any age) to have sex with you the way you would freely do with a female slave (which would be your right)… death to both of you. These are “household” crimes and the household pays the price.

None of this is based on your modern morality, ethics, or sense or fairness or justice. It was written for you.

The framework for all this is actually clarified earlier, in Lev 19:20… in which crimes against someone else’s household (i.e. slaves) does NOT result in death.

I also already addressed Paul in my previous comment. Your assertion is incorrect.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't acknowledge what I said about the Exodus
You haven't even attempted to mention what neighboring tribes said about the same thing or what people who lived under these rules had to say
Didn't acknowledge what Paul said. Very clear that he was upset about people being gay. Even if you say it was added on that wouldn't change anything from the Christian perspective since about half the letters are fraudulent.
Didn't acknowledge that Hebrew and Greek both have words for child
Sigh. Consent isn't in there? You sure?

But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her. Deuteronomy 22:25-27

I don't know where you got the idea that Leviticus only applies to the priests. It would have been news to the people who lived under those rules for 800 years prior to Jesus. Would also have been news to the Hitties who made up the rule. I find it especially shocking since the priest class was allowed a single exception to the Leviticus rules.

I am sorry your holy book is homophobic. Maybe spend the time learning the languages it is written in if you want to follow it.

[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Are you confusing me with a different conversation?

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