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Nope, the loser is feijoo because he does not have the numbers.
Neither does PSOE, by itself. No party has over half of the seats therefore there should be reelections.
No single party has had over half the seats in Dutch parliament in my lifetime... maybe ever? I don't even know, maybe in the 50s or before world war II.
It might surprise you but we haven't had continuous elections for the last 80 years...
I think you simply lack some fundamental understanding of parliamentary systems.
Yes, I'm aware of the way it works. I'm arguing that it isn't done right, at least here, and should be changed
Democracy is built on compromise and consensus. Even within a single party, members and representatives must negotiate a consensus about what positions and policies they want to pursue. To say that consensus building within a party is acceptable but between parties is not (which is effectively what you are doing here) is completely arbitrary and doesn't make sense.
PSOE has done a coalition with multiple parties including the catalan seperatists and bildu which contains members formerly a part of ETA instead of with PP, because if they do a coalition with PP then Sanchez wouldn't be the president. Besides, I don't think Junts per fucking Catalunya is representative of the Spanish?
And the PP founders ( formerly alianza popular) were all ministers of the previously regime (fascists dictatorship). And yes, JUNTS and ERC are representative of Catalonia, equal PNV and EH bildu for Basque country.
They are more representative for the spanish people than junts or pnv or eh bildu ever will be, for better or for worse.
Except for, you know, the fact that Spaniards voted for them.
Junts, ERC, Bildu, PNV combined have 25 seats combined. PP has 137.
Because in the majorities of regions of Spain there is only PP, PSOE, VOX or SUMAR. The more parties and options the better, they will have to make more effort to reach agreements and the more fair and representative they will be. What you advocate for absolute majorities of a single party is like a 4-year dictatorship.
Because... those are the parties they vote for...?
Today PSOE will have the numbers. In a democracy it is better to have different parties ruling than just one, it is more representative of the population.
The Catalan seperatists are a very small minority of the national votes, and is not representative of the Spanish population. The most logical thing to do in this situation would be coalition between PP and PSOE, but then pedrito wouldn't be the president would he?
The problem of PP is the coalitions with VOX (the far far right party).
PP wanted to form a coalition with PSOE, not VOX. (mostly because they still don't have a majority over PSOE's coalition even with VOX)
Nope, PP prefer to go with VOX better than PSOE, and no other party want anything with VOX, which is normal.
PP is not interested in VOX because a coalition with VOX would not guarantee them a victory, they definitely would form a coalition if it did though, no doubt in that. Feijoo has asked Sanchez multiple times before and after the elections to form a coalition.