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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 1 year ago

Not a tankie, but the USSR had mostly solved this problem, despite all its other issues. There did exist some homelessness, but nowhere near the extent of current USA.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Sure, you could get a piece of land in Siberian tundra at any time, I would not call that housing.

Moving to a city was way more complicated than in capitalist US. You could not simply buy an apartment. You had to be allocated an apartment by the government. And you needed connections for that. Or bribes. Ideally both. If you think your local rabid Republicans do not care for little wage slave men, you never experienced USSR, it was like that but 100x worse.

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

If you got a new job in a different city, they gave you a new flat, at least in Romania

[-] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like you have to have strong connections through networking. Sounds familiar.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Yup. And networking would inevitably involve vodka. All major decisions would eventually involve vodka in USSR.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

One of Stalin's failures almost any tankie won't deny.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vodka had been linked to the Russian economy under multiple Czars. I'm not sure that Stalin could have separated the two even if he had wanted to. Admittedly it doesn't appear that he wanted to.

I'm pretty sure that the USSR was screwed the moment that Lenin returned from exile in Germany, or when Wilson was elected. Take your pick.

The Menchaviks would have been a better government.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The mechaviks literally wanted to continue ww1 and have a psuedo democracy where the bourgeoisie were literally guaranteed a majority of seats, wtf are you talking about?

[-] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Bro got his history lessons from OverSimplified

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I wasn't aware of that. I was under the impression they were less extreme than the Bolsheviks, and didn't want to execute everyone that wasn't a hard core Bolshevik

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They were more extreme than the bolseviks but less extreme than the monarchists, they were just on the side of capitalists so were painted with a nicer brush by capitalist historians

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gotcha, that explains why the sources I have read, showed them as favorable to the Menchaviks

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I just find it ironic that Stalin was everything that the party worried about Trotsky becoming.

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

At least they tried. Our homelessness is an intentional feature of our capitalist system. A constant threat and extant punishment for those among us who aren't fortunate enough to be born with a silver stick up our ass.

[-] Mercival@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Well, I'm from a post-USSR country and a substantial part of this was the criminalization of homelessness. Can't have homeless people, if you lock them up (be it in a prison or asylum).

Then again, just about anyone, who did not conform to the party's message got locked up. Getting your place bugged at the slightest hint you might be up to something disagreeable and all that good stuff. The secret police could disappear and or beat you up without any real justification.

I hate late-stage capitalism as much as you, but coming from a country that's been through this, I am extremely reluctant to give the rotten and frankly repugnant USSR regime any credit.

[-] escapesamsara -1 points 1 month ago

Your grandma that "fled communism" lied to you. Eventually you'll understand that and stop repeating their nonsense.

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