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But War Crime
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But this is the most reasonable response.
If they realize that human shields aren't working, they won't use them and a more optimal number of people will be killed overall.
Also, any human shields you kill should be attributed to the people using those human shields.
Thats my take on this. I will agree to disagree with anyone who thinks otherwise.
PS: For all those replying: where did the words "Israel" and "Hamas" come from? I would like to bring to your attention that I didn't cover any details specific to the conflict anywhere above.. As far as I am concerned:
PPS: Lets play some mental games for a second.
Statement 1: X is mass murdering innocent people. And Y is trying to kill X.
Who is the bad guy and who is the good guy? X is bad Y is good.
Now let me reveal How X is mass murdering people.
Statement 2: X is doing so by putting those innocent people into the fire of Y on X.
You cannot tell me Y is worse than X after that. I don't say that we can't judge Y for attacking X under these circumstances, but X is never better than Y.
Israel has claimed it is shooting through human shields for decades. Do you think Hamas is too stupid to realize that it doesn't work?
Hamas likes it when Israel kills Palestinian citizens, because it make Israel justifiably look bad. Hamas wants to get other countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran involved in the war, and dead Palestinian civilians helps that goal.
You're so close to the plot you could probably taste it
It is the plot, Hamas has said as much. Israel doesn't seem to care much if they kill the civilians either, but Hamas keeps using human shields because they think their deaths will get them allies.
As much as you mock them its amusing how much you refuse to face reality. Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by Iran specifically to prolong Palestinian suffering and casualties to justify actions against Israel. The majority of Hamas fighters aren't even Palestinians, same as most of the insurgents in Afghanistan were not natives to the country fighting against coalition forces.
Your argument is if someone takes a hostage let them do what ever they want.
Is that why Israeli has been propping them up for years? https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
That completely contradicts your original point, that "If they realize that human shields aren’t working, they won’t use them"
That wasn't me who said that mate. Learn to read usernames.
Well fuck I just responded from my inbox. Whatever.
So you think Israel is too stupid to realize how bad this makes them look and they are playing right into Hamas's hands?
Israel is trying to rescue 240 hostages. I don't think they care a whole lot about what most of the world thinks
They certainly don't care about how many thousands of Palestinian civilians "have" to die to free those hostages
Actually, no. They don't care how many hostages have to die to destroy Palestinian infrastructure, and displace Palestinians.
They have been trying to make a Hamas in the West bank for forever now, and they'd do anything to make one. They would love for a militia to form in the West bank, go right in, take hostages and kill civilians. Next thing you'd hear is people on the internet calling for the displacement of the entire population of the West bank for supporting the militia.
No, I think they don't really care and won't until they get support pulled by the US. And given the US is negotiating a ceasefire, and civilian casualties have gone down the last week, the US may have threatened just that.
So fast and loose, what if you had created casualties with your mistake?