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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Israel is under attack, does not have the resources to take these buildings with less collateral damage, and the international community will not send any military aid besides fucking bombs, then what is Israel supposed to do?

Answer: And write this down.

NOTHING.

Then give Palestinians equal rights, jobs, full citizenship. Treat them as brothers. Equals. Treating people like humans isn’t difficult if you try.

Feel free to reference this answer the next time you have that question.

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cute like a kid going "why can't everyone just be friends?"

Don't get me wrong, I wish this could work, I wish half of Israel weren't ready to kill all Arabs and vice versa.

But sadly hate blinds, if not most then a lot of people.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It really is that easy. We choose our emotions. I’m not saying people shouldn’t defend themselves. But violence should be the last option, not the first. There can be a world where Jews and Palestinians coexist. But it has to be chosen, not mandated or forced.

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but a big part of humanity does not see it that way.

Also the video is hilarious XD

[-] S_204@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the most retarded possible take imaginable. Nobody in the region wants that either.

Hamas and their supporters, of which polling shows is a large majority in the strip right now, is openly calling for the murder of Jews.

You wouldn't have peace if you magically granted equal rights to the people who refuse to acknowledge the existence of the country that would be granting them those rights, you'd have millions of dead Jews.

You either don't want to understand that or you just want to see dead Jews.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

The thing I hate most about Israel apologists is the way that, for them, history always starts with the latest action against the country, totally ignoring its egregious actions all the way back to when it was founded by genicidal terrorist groups, who then became its official military.

Gee, ya think that maybe the support for Hamas doesn’t stem from its anti-Jewish stance? Maybe there’s something else going on that perhaps the people might be reacting to? Also, who created Hamas?

[-] S_204@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think most Israel supporters start the clock in 1948... When 5 Arab Nations attacked them simultaneously. Israel has been under attack ever since, so the claim that it's the past 75 years is utterly bullshit. Even Hamas has said this has nothing to do with the conditions of the strip and is because they want to wipe out Israel entirely.... same thinking as day 1.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed, as always, starting the clock with the blowback, casting Israel as the feckless victim, omitting the Nakba, and everything that happened in 1947 and earlier.

[-] S_204@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If you're able to learn about the Nakba, then you're more than capable of learning about the hundreds of years of pogroms and attacks on Jews in the region. The list for the town of sfat is interesting.

But nah, ignore the 900,000 Jews forced out of their homes in the region and focus on the 200,000 Arabs. Sounds exactly like what we're seeing all around, the elimination of Jewish history of the region. Good thing the history is documented and ain't going anywhere.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, I can learn that even the events in Sfat/Safed were part of an escalating cycle of recriminations. So as you helpfully point out, meeting violence with violence has been going on for hundreds of years, and has solved exactly nothing. As I have said in a separate comment chain, it will just continue to generate atrocity and pain until one of the sides—neither of which is righteous, let's be clear—decides to take responsibility for its past and starts the slow, complicated process of deescalation.

And if your gut reaction to that truth is, "they would never do that," well, go ahead, turn the crank once more, see how it goes.

[-] S_204@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Agreed. As long as Arabs hate Jews more than they love their children, this will sadly continue.

Thankfully some Arab Nations like the UAE, have learned this and have normalized relations, creating peace and prosperity for their people. Hopefully the Palestinians learn this lesson quickly, before Hamas sets everything back even farther.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 11 months ago
[-] S_204@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You can tell your Mom you learned something today. Be proud.

[-] Cipher22@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Welcome to first grade, and I want you to know that everyone here is your friend, and you should always be nice.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Well, I’m old. And it hasn’t failed me yet. When it does fail me, is when I meet toxic people with negativity. I generally limit time with them.

[-] Cipher22@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So even you, my old friend, admit there are some impressively toxic and shitty people out there.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. But I try not to ridicule or look down on them, as many want to do. They are victims of material circumstances. Sometimes they don’t even understand their intentions. I have weaknesses, I acknowledge and live with mine, while others project theirs outward.

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