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Plex crossed a line with "Your week in review" emails today. (alien.top)
submitted 2 years ago by Ironicbadger@alien.top to c/main@selfhosted.forum
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As you may have seen Plex decided it was OK today to send an email showing me what my friends have been watching. To be clear, this is Plex telling other people what I've been watching from my server, with my files, and this is not OK.

https://imgur.com/a/DYR4wlh

We all knew it was a matter of time before Plex started collecting data on our libraries and sharing it with advertisers. What happened to their "we don't know, and don't want to know, what is on your server"?. This, for me, is proof that those fears were absolutely founded in reality. On what planet would I ever want this information to be shared with friends on family on an OPT OUT basis?

It's totally unacceptable to collect this data in the first place. It's totally unacceptable to share this information with uniquely identifiable information. And it's totally unacceptable to do this without explicitly asking me if it's OK.

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about this as a server admin, because technically these are Plex users and their marketing email preferences are controlled on the user side in the Plex website preferences. Not on your server.

This is an absolutely egregious overreach.

Thank goodness there are alternatives available in the form of Jellyfin and Emby. I left my Plex server up after the Jellyfin January challenge we did on the Self-Hosted podcast but because of this I feel that I have no choice but to take it down for good.

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[–] Kraftingg@alien.top 8 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Jellyfin FTW!

[–] TattooedBrogrammer@alien.top 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Problem is my user base are TV and mostly non technical people. No way they setup and maintain a JellyFin install. That’s why Plex just wins.

[–] zim1985@alien.top 3 points 2 years ago

What? Why would they need to setup a whole install to use your server? Just connect to the server in one of the numerous apps and login to your account?

[–] 12_nick_12@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

And if JF won't work for you, Emby is pretty decent as well.

[–] wireis@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Made the switch to JF about 6 months ago, Never looked back!

[–] R0GG3R@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (12 children)

JF has no proper chromecast support… ☹️😤

[–] Mintfresh22@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Yes it does.

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[–] HeadlineINeed@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is it supported on tv makers?

[–] wireis@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] spicy45@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is your answer.

[–] MalcolmY@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It says available for Android TV and WebOS. Which are the TV OSes now most of the time.

[–] Stetsed@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I also recently installed it on Tizen(Samsung's OS) and using the docker container(https://github.com/babagreensheep/jellyfin-tizen-docker) it was stupidly easy and the hardest part was enabling developer mode.

[–] strangerzero@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No Apple TV client. Bummer.

[–] 8layer8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guess it's too late to change the stupid name.

[–] wireis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It is what it is, until it isn’t

[–] levogevo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Wdym TV makers?

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[–] scfw0x0f@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AppleTV + Infuse

[–] XTJ7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I am also strongly considering to make the switch now. Any notable drawbacks/learnings from using it for 6 months?

[–] metajames@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is there some way to send a invite to someone from your jellyfin where they just need to install the app and follow your link? Or some other way to seriously streamline install and setup?

The whole use this hostname and managing reverse proxy etc is the reason I have not switched. It's just not user friendly for a grandma or typical consumer. That's the majority of my users.

[–] Shmoogy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What's the safe way to expose jellyfin for users to access without a vpn or cloudflare tunnel (tos)

[–] tehgreyghost@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would love to switch but their agent is so bad. It only finds like 10% of my videos. I dont want to spend 80 hours searching the metadata one at a time.

[–] highly_confusing@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Does Jellyfin have an adequate apple TV iphone and android client with library sharing thats comparable to plex? Im not trying to start a war here, i just want to know. Only reason I don't use jellyfin is because back in the day it didnt have library sharing or a decent apple tv app.

[–] trowgundam@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately Jellyfin is just missing features. Opening and Credits skip? Nope. There is a plugin, but it doesn't work with the Android client. On that front the Android client is so temperamental. Half the time it just doesn't work on my Nvidia Shield. The UI is really clunky as well. I was using it for several months and the app just frustrated me so much I just went back to Plex.