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Project Bluefin: A Linux Desktop for Serious Developers
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I don't get it. What's the spirit of ubuntu? Is the underlying OS based on ubuntu instead of fedora?
What's the actual difference to fedora silverblue?
Half the answer to "why did you make your own linux?" is that it's awesome being able to revert back to the original fedora OS.
And the other half doesn't provide any info either
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Hi! Co-maintainer here, you can find the differences in the github repo: https://github.com/ublue-os/bluefin
And there's a doc page going over it here: https://universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=41
If you have any other questions I'd be happy to answer them!
I checked the github page you link and can find no differences listed, just three bullet points that appear to have be written by a PR team. You say an Ubuntu Desktop experience melded with Fedora Silverblue. Don't you mean GNOME? Ubuntu isn't a desktop environment, it's a Linux distro. GNOME is the desktop environment. That seems like an embarassing blunder in your copy when you claim to be building a distro for "serious" developers.
If it weren't open source, I'd think this was a scam. Weird choice.
IIRC, Bluefin uses the GNOME extensions that Ubuntu uses - so yes, GNOME in the same way that the current version of Pop!_OS is GNOME + their own extensions.
I linked to it, here it is again: https://universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=41#features-9
And the previous link was directly to the source code of the image.
Tbo, I lost interest in it.
I've spend a good amount of time on it trying to figure out what the project is about. Even after clarifying the confusion and multiple people asking for clarification from your side and multiple upvotes, there's nothing from your side. You reference to something that has been saying nothing for many people.
You didn't even clarify the magical wonders of ubuntu in your project. I kind of feel insulted if I think properly about it.
Delete following part of your post
The difference between silverblue and your image is that silverblue is signed by fedora and yours isn't. There's no reason for anyone but you to use the image. Even if I were to us tailscale and fish, I'd be better off with silverblue.
Here maybe it's easier if I just paste in the differences:
Ubuntu-like GNOME layout.
GNOME Software with Flathub:
Built on top of the the Universal Blue main image
Starship is enabled by default to give you a nice shell prompt
Solaar - included for Logitech mouse management along with
libratbagdTailscale - included for VPN along with
wireguard-toolszshandfishoptionalBuilt-in Ubuntu user space
Ctrl-Alt-u - will launch an Ubuntu image inside a terminal via Distrobox and your home directory will be transparently mounted for the Ubuntu image to access
A BlackBox terminal is used just for this configuration
Use this container for your typical CLI needs or to install software that is not available via Flatpak or Fedora
Optional ubuntu-toolbox image with Python, and other convenience development tools.
just distrobox-bluefinto get started. To configurejustfollow the guide.Optional universal image with Python, Node.js, JavaScript, TypeScript, C++, Java, C#, F#, .NET Core, PHP, Go, Ruby, and and Conda.
just distrobox-universalto get startedjust assembleshortcut to declaratively build distroboxes defined in/etc/distrobox/distrobox.iniRefer to the Distrobox documentation for more information on using and configuring custom images
GNOME Terminal - Ctrl-Alt-t - will launch a host-level GNOME Terminal if you need to do host-level things in Fedora (you shouldn't need to do much).
Of course Fedora only signs Fedora images, we sign our own images.
Then use Silverblue! If you don't understand the features of something then you might not be the target audience!
Yeah, they don't have a clear mission statement to explain the delta of "why does this exist, and what problems does it solve".
I think it boils down to: "because we can". "We can automatically build our own setup on github and that's what we do"
Installing tailscale, zsh, fish, vscode, extension manager, codecs, etc. out of the box isn't enough for a new distro. Especially because you break the signing of fedora by doing so.
I'm a bit surprised that they mentioned "distribution" on the Bluefin website, as the Universal Blue site (the base project behind Bluefin) explicitly mentions not being a distro - and I know that Jorge tends to be very clear that they're not building a distro:
much cloud, very native, wow
This is the umpteenth time I’ve come across this project but I just don’t get what they’re going for here.
These are just custom images, are they not?
If I wanted Ubuntu I’d use Ubuntu. If I wanted Fedora I’d use Fedora. Maybe I’m not getting it but I wonder how big of a population that’s out there that wants some Ubuntu mixed in with a touch of Fedora and some buzzword salad thrown into the mix.